They're all too fast in the other thread!
Yup, you can really feel the 'burn'
And yup, HM 11th August then 7 weeks till the Marathon, the HM should give me an idea how far away I am from being able to do LN in 5 hours
A marathon is a totally different beast. I didn't understand when people said that the first half of a marathon is 20 miles & the second half 6.2 miles, however I did by the time I'd finished!
lol and yes HM4, I realise I can't just double my half time and think that will work Providing I've put the Marathon training in doubling the half then adding 20 mins seems to be an accepted formula? So, 2:20 *2 +00:20 = 5 (hopefully).
And yes, I'd heard the 20 & 6 miles for each half before - scary!
Half marathon time x 2.20 to 2.3 for your first marathon seems a reasonable formula you have trained loads so probably closer to the 2.2 then 2.3 time
Andi: What time are you hoping for, with regards to your half? 2:15?
My second marathon I did around 2:20 when I got my 4:56 time, but realistially as it's only a half should be nice and quick as you know you don't have to do the other 13m.
I heard a lot of people say about the 20m / 6.2m race and it's true, but it's as much a mental thing I think. Your tired, and so your brain starts being stupid and saying things like just relax, and sit down and chill out. The mental side is the hardest.
I still think a marathon sounds crazy ... But a little half marathon is tempting me now (Got the bug!)
Booktrunk, my 'goal' time for the half is 2:20 - worked backwards from my planned Marathon time of 4:56 (weirdly the same as yours!). I will be running the last 9 miles of the Half at the weekend providing I catch the bus
And yup, I think the running part will be the easiest bit (not easy of course) and the mind is the thing I need to master. I also read somewhere that your longest 5 LSR's should be as near to 100 miles as possible? Mine should be 94 - 16, 18 and 3 @20.
Emse, get yersen signed up for one in the new year then, you know you want to lol.
That does seem to be the established formula.
Couldn't agree more I'd class the training as 45% & the mental side 55%.
I said I'd never do a marathon however have done one.
10 miles along the canal today, run/walking to keep my hr down. It was nice
Txs HM4 and managed to catch a later bus (too much beer on Friday) but managed my 20 miler in heavy rain and strong gusts of wind in 3:54:45
Daveo, 10 miles along the canal sounds bliss I'm still struggling with the HADDing but managed 5.3 miles tonight at 70.74% of MHR so maybe things are looking up at last?
Hi everyone. Trying to catch up but it's been busy!
Slooowly trying to work my way back down under the hour, though it's tricky while marathon training. I did the National Lottery 5 Miles in 47 minutes a couple of weeks ago so that's given me hope. Haven't done a proper 10k for ages so I must book one in. I did the Thunder Run team event last weekend and did 3x10k laps but that was very slow - off road, hilly, in torrential rain and knee deep mud in places. Oh and two laps were in the middle of the night. Great fun though!
I've got all three boys on school holiday now so trying to squeeze in training in the evenings and weekends. Well done Andi on the 20 miler though. In some ways those long slow runs alone are harder than the marathon where at least you have company and support. If it helps my last two HMs before the VLM were 2.16 (flat) and 2.21 (very hilly) and my marathon time was 4.57 so your target is perfect.
Hope you had an awesome time. I know I certainly did when I did the first National Lottery 5 miles. Unfortunately it was March 2012 & freezing. Well done on the training.
Well done. If you did that in heavy rain and gusts I think you may have been running too quickly for a training run if you want to get under 5 hrs or did you want to run it close to marathon pace?
Hey susan and well done on your runs, especially the Thunder Run, sounds like lots of 'fun' Thanks for the info re times, fingers and toes are all crossed here
Hi HM4, my target mmp is 11:16 for Loch Ness but that was basically plucked out of the air to give me 5 minutes grace on another guessed at target of sub 5 hours. So yes, I may be running too quickly for my own good As for the LSR pace the first 10 miles was along the route of Sunday's HM so tried a few miles @MP - it felt quite good but TWT.
I have not been logged on for sooooo long hope everyone is well looks like lots of running going on
so since I last came on I have somehow been talked into doing the snowdon marathon end of October had a friend at running clubs place transferred to me!!!!! Never done a marathon in my life and so far my longest mileage is only 14 miles so a long way to go! Sept and oct busy for me, I have cardiff 10 k and Swansea 10k in September then Cardiff half 6th oct and the biggy snowdon othe 26th!!! Everyone thinks I'm slightly mad as i hate hills so now have a place in the hilliest marathon in uk! I feel my goal for this is to complete it in one piece not worried about time as cant compare to any other marathon nearby.
at tying to up my mileage but so hard to fit iI all in! life gets in the way lol
Hey Samantha and WB!
I just took a look at the Snowdon profile and yup, looks like it will hurt My take on hills is that if you 'run' up them you (usually) get to run down them as well but, that can often hurt more so good on you for doing it and remember, do some downhill training as well as uphill, it will help
Good luck. I like hilly courses however I wouldn't fancy that one. Is it a road marathon or off road? If off road you'll need to add about 30-60 secs per mile to your pace.
Another MAF/HADD style long run yesterday, 1 hour 45 in lots of boring laps around the field in zone 2. I had to stop at that point (goal was about 2:15) because I had a visit from the gingerbread man - if you listen to marathon talk you'll know what I mean! - anyway, progress, if slow.. I'm still not getting much more than 11 minute miles without breaking my heart rate limit, but didn't need to walk nearly as much as last week, and at parkrun I trotted round at 10 min/mile without getting out of breath so that shows it's doing me good.. gotta keep the faith and keep on with it, in spite of the boredom! I'm keeping the leg on the right side of the brink, but only just.
Well, the Mull HM was fun, a small group with 82 finishers and little ole me came 80th! Target was 2:20 (10:41 min/miles) but jeez, did the first mile in 8:57 and was last by about 20 metres! Finished in 2:13:08 (10:10 min miles) so ahead of target and feel better about breaking 5 hours for Loch Ness in Sept.
Oh, and unofficial 5 & 10k pbs, about 27:40 for 5k and 60:30 for 10k - maybe I should drive down that way and try them again?
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