From 0 to a Marathon in 22 weeks.

Preparing for a marathon from scratch, in 22 weeks.

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02/08/2013 at 23:05

Oh Andi, the asics plans are generally low mileage compared to a lot of other plans, but a lot more of the plan is at marathon pace. Pretty much all the long runs are at marathon pace. So I'm only running according to the plan 3 days a week but two Including the long run are at least at marathon pace.

so less but harder work generally. 

But now I am adding extra mileage in I get a little carried away and really should be going slow on the extra run. 

03/08/2013 at 00:35

Ah, understand now booktrunk I'm a 'more but easier' kinda guy lol.

03/08/2013 at 07:34

Booktrunk good luck with the training hope it's going well

03/08/2013 at 19:04

Hi toby3 long time no chat going well thank you

today 15.25 miles (24.4 km) in 2:52:14

so I reckon that lap plus the 5m with time to refill drinks in 4 hours leaving 9 hours for the last 30.5 miles.

then I am hoping for around 3:30 : 3:45 for next 15.25 and then 4:15 to 4:30 for last 15.25 this will get me around in 12 hours so i'll have an hour to spare well.... That's the theory, not sure quite how it will go in reality we shall see.

03/08/2013 at 19:32

hehe Booktrunk, you'll have time for a picnic! Breaking things down into smaller chunks seems like a really good way to do things (it's all in the mind like you say).

My first 20 miler today and the first time I have run from A to B rather than A to B to A (out and back). It felt strange just running home but no chance to quit and head home early 3:54:45, 11:44mm's and AHR of 74%.

06/08/2013 at 10:21

That's Awesome Andi.  You are going to be so 'ready' when your marathon comes along.  The biggest problem will be not burning up all your energy in excitement in the week leading up to it.

You can spent the week relaxing laughing at me complaining that i'm a mess after my ultra

06/08/2013 at 18:49

Txs booktrunk and I do hope I'm 'ready'. Mull HM on sunday and target time is 2:20 so should give me an idea of how close to 5 hours I'll get in September Am thinking of doing a mini taper so just done 2*4 miles this week (so far) and trying to average 70% of MAX  (got it down to 70.74% thus far). As for burning up energy in excitement am pretty sure I'll have plenty of nervous excitement

And nope, won't be laughing at you, will be admiring your fortitude and am sure you'll be just fine


07/08/2013 at 01:51

Weird one for me. I've had bad heels/achilles for weeks now, went for a 10 mile run last night, my longest yet, could barely walk afterwards, had to get a lift to the pub. Woke up this morning not an ache or pain anywhere. Can't believe it. That's the 3rd injury I've run off. Took me 2 hours, though, but I just wanted to finish it, so well pleased. Just looking back through the early pages of this thread to give me a gee up.

07/08/2013 at 05:48

i ran Brighton earlier in the year and used the same 18 week plan as I’ve done for the past 3 year although i have tweaked it a bit over the years

 i thought i try something i a little different for me this year and try and do at least one 20 mile run a month up until December when my training for Brighton next year will start then run a few more 22 mile runs as i still struggled over the last 6 miles despite doing my long runs on a Friday and then going out Saturday with my wife on hers

the back to back long runs paid off and i did a lot more 20 miles runs this year as i got round in 3:37:19 taking 23:09 of my P/B this year the target is to go sub 3:30:30 if i can or get as close as possible

08/08/2013 at 22:42

Toby that's awesome. 

I've been looking and McMillan and co seem to think I need a 2:08 / 2.09 half for a 4:30 mara. So 6:07 roughly per km. I slogged 12k at 5:58 last night and 8k at 6:06 tonight. add them together and I'd be doing ok

on holiday next week, either walking or cycling around bit of Scotland on days trips from the out-of-laws based near St Andrews so migt not run but should stay fighting fit. Will try to do at least a half this weekend probably Sunday morning early before the test cricket is on.  Not sure if it's going to be a slow sensible half plus or try to est my recent record for a half which is 2:14:42.

Keep on running everyone I might not be back for a week and a bit.... Or I might be bored silly and posting each night from Scotland. 


Oh survived being the boss at work for two weeks that was fun.

08/08/2013 at 23:15

Biggun, well done on running through the pain! Problem with that is if it was the start of an injury and not just a 'niggle' it might cause issue. My problem is I don't know the difference I'm on a mini taper for my HM on Sunday and today's 4 mile run gave me a pain in my right calf, then just below my kneecap but went after the second mile but then got a sharp pain in my hamstring as I 'hopped' onto the pavement from the road (yes, we do have some pavements here lol).

Toby, gr8 times and nice to know that more 20+ milers help you through the Marathon. That's some PB improvement!

Booktrunk, always good to know there are people as 'obsessed' with numbers as me Am sure you'll have a great time up near St Andrew's, sadly your on the wrong coast to me  When is the Ultra again? am sure you'll not lose any fitness especially as you'll be cycling/walking. I've stopped watching Cricket now cos, well, it's all over really

09/08/2013 at 00:24

All the best for Sunday's HM, Andi! What time are you hoping for?

09/08/2013 at 00:41

Txs Biggun 'A' goal is 2:20, the Macmillan Calculator tells me if I hit that then I should be ok for my Marathon target of 4:54 for Loch Ness Any slower and I may well finish last! (last year was just 77 entrants and 2:25 was the last home).

09/08/2013 at 11:51

Blimey! What are they feeding you lot on up there?

09/08/2013 at 12:03

lol biggun I think it's a lot to do with the small field and maybe cos it's on an Island only 'faster' runners make the trip?

09/08/2013 at 19:14

Evening all

Well that’s the 20 miler for this month done managed to run it all this time took me 3:10:57 with and Avg pace of 9:25 so not bad

09/08/2013 at 21:14

Well done Toby.



09/08/2013 at 21:19

BLOODY HELL!! ladies n gents.... I started this thread saying I'm fat n lazy NAND cannot run 100 meters.


Tonight.... I JUST REACHED 1,000 MILES!

15 and a bit months, to go from 0 to 1,000 miles.

I am so bloody thrilled, i cannot believe that I've clocked up 1,000 miles. I am well chuffed! I just cannot believe I am the same person. I must admit a sneaky bit of me is bloody proud that I've done it. But, realistically it's just a number, onwards and upwards I guess

12, 8 , 6.4km over the last 3 days along with another 7-8km dog walking. (No I don't count dog walking in my 1,000)



09/08/2013 at 21:26

I cannot stop smiling. what the heck I feel very good tonight

09/08/2013 at 21:32


That's a great achievement no wonder your smiling  I'll raise a glass to celebrate later.

oh, an nice time for the 20 Toby

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