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04/08/2002 at 09:39
Hi Guys...

I'm new to the site, Runner's World and running. I'm looking mainly for sources of advice and motivation.

I'm 32 and just started running. I'm 3st overweight and started a montha go on a "weight loss" and dieting regine. My aim is to get down to 9st 10 (my ideal weight for height ratio). In the last month I've been walking (briskly with the dog) 3 times a day usually something along the lines of 20-20 mins in the morning, 1 hour - 1hr 15 mins in the afternoon and 40 mins in the evening. This is equating to 6 miles a day, everyday (36 miles a week).

My calorie intake is around 1380-1500 but I vary it up and down to make sure my metabolism stays on track. But it never involves chocolate, biscuits crisps or anything remotely unhealthy. So, doing this in the last month I've lost 10 lbs (I'm sure this is okay - I try to make sure I'm not overdoing things).

Anyway, for years I wanted to restart running - I used to be a cross country runner at school and it's a sport I really enjoyed ... especially when you're in the zone, the breathing is right and no injuries... I used to feel on times like that I could run forever.

Anyways, I want to get back to doing that. I started running about a 2 weeks ago. I've so far incorporated short runs into my morning walk and not everday. I've seen on the site to start only 3 times a week. Is it okay to still carry on with the brisk walking three times a day with the dog..? (I know it will seem a stupid question but I'm not sure and I want to start properly and make sure I don't injue myself before I even start).

I also wanted to say a big thanks to all those people who have had the courage to start and keep going - you've provided me with some inspiration. Initially I thought I was too fat to run and too unfit but I see other people can do it and I want to see if I can too.

Thanks again everyone
04/08/2002 at 11:48
Hi Cath

I'm glad to see you're taking such positive steps to reach your goals and, judging by the progress you've made so far, it won't be long until you get there.

It was a little weird reading your post because the similarities between us are interesting (same age, returning to running after a long break, determined to tackle a weight problem)- I won't be buying a dog just to keep up with you though - lol.

I've been scouring books and the web searching for a beginners program and the concensus of opinion seems to be to do pretty much what you're doing - incorporating short periods of running into your walking 3-5 times a week - and gradually increasing the running periods and reducing the walking over the weeks. As with most physical exercise I think the most important thing is to listen to what your body is telling you. If you feel good taking the dog for a long walk on your non-running days then it should be fine. If you start to feel excessively stiff or tired then it might be wise just to take a day off and come back after a rest.

I wish you all the success in the world with your running and, rest assured, i'll be out there running round the park (eventually) hoping that someone else is doing the same for me.

Be happy that you've taken the initiative in doing something you want to do and be proud of every positive step you take to becoming a runner again.
04/08/2002 at 14:08
Hi Gary,

Thanks for your posting. It's encouraging to know I'm not the only one just starting out and I can't wait until I get right back into it properly. I doubt I'll be running three times a day but certainly I hope to get upto running at least 3 miles a day and then increasing the distance and stamina from there.

How are you doing with the running..? How long ago did you start again and where are you aiming for..? Initially I think I might be brave enough to enter a 5K but my main aim in the distant future (probably 2-3 years or before I'm 35) is to run a marathon. We'll see.
04/08/2002 at 14:27
Hi folks! Can I join the 32 club? I've only been going at this running lark a few months, but really my improvement is fairly minimal compared to some of the stories I read from people who have given it more commitment than me!! Also the weight hasn't shifted yet (about a stone overweight) but I haven't really made many changes to my eating - although think starting to see tiny tiny signs of progress on that front, and I'm definitely a better shape!

BUT - have decided that if I am going to improve I have to up the number of runs I'm doing a week to at least 3 and do some of this "fartlek" (?!) stuff. Before, I had the same dilemma about what would be overdoing it. I do taekwon-do twice a week also and figured it might be "too much" initially to try and introduce 3 runs a week on top of that. But now the aches and pains after either type of exercise have reduced a bit, I think it would be ok. Has anyone else suffered from muscle aches in their HIPS though? Bit wierd, but can't be a bad thing if it's working those muscles ;-) .

I'm well impressed, Cath, with your long-term goal of doing a marathon. I'm a bit scared to set myself any big goals (beyond a 5k for the foreseeable future) in case I put myself under pressure and turn the running into a chore rather than the fun I'm having right now.

Fiona
04/08/2002 at 14:37
Welcome to the 32 club Fiomac !!

I really want to try and get myself to 10k and possibly half marathons eventually although I am more than concious of not overdoing things. At this stage of the game i'm just going to watch things improve over time and see how i'm performing maybe three months down the track.

I think the important thing is just to get the best out of it that you can and enjoy it - I certainly have no higher expectations at this stage than to feel fitter and look better. Anything more than that is a bonus.
04/08/2002 at 14:44
Hi Fiona!!

Well you seem to be doing really well, taekwon-do as well! I'm really only walking/ jogging and even though it's 3 times a day (two walks, one jog/walk) half the reason is the dog would drive me mental if he didn't go out three times a day :) But seriously the thing that tipped the scales with me was the eating - I rarely ate sweet things anyway but I found I was eating too much and the timing was all wrong. You don't need to do an awful lot to alter - I think what I did in the first few weeks was I kept a diary of exactly what I was eating and what my daily calorie intake was. After two weeks I could see where I needed to improve or cut down on things. Since then I've done fairly well diet wise and I'm not a picker anyway (thankfully) so it's been relatively easy to stay on track.

Regarding the major goal - well, it is two or three years away and I'm hoping I can do it - it's more an ambition than anything else. I was brought up to believe you can do anything if you put your mind to it and you only have to want to do it enough to succeed :) So that's what I'm doing, putting my mind to it and hopefully with determination, guts and hard slog, I'll get there :)
04/08/2002 at 14:58
Wow that was quick, I only went away to start my new thread and when I came back I had 2 responses! Ta very much.

Yes, think I am of the "wait and see, anything is a bonus" school of thought too Gary. You never know, maybe when my confidence increases I'll be looking towards marathons too! There is something about reading the really established runners' posts or articles in RW and thinking, "maybe just maybe - they all had to start somewhere some day too".

Well done with the eating, Cath. I'm actually more of a picker than someone who likes big meals, and crisps (even if they are the low-fat variety) are still my downfall. However, having persuaded other half to join the running fraternity (Michag, see his post) then maybe what we have in the household will take a turn for the healthier.

Fiona
05/08/2002 at 22:07
Hello Cath (and everyone else too) - Can I join the 32 club even though I'm 33!?

I just wanted to congratulate you on your success so far..I took up running in March of this year after starting a diet in Jan (I had 3 1/2 stone to lose). I've since lost 2st 4lbs and have built up the runs from the walk min, run 1min training (and the run 1 min used to KILL me) on a treadmill to recently completing my very 1st 10k 2 weeks ago (it took me forever, but I was sooo happy to get round!).

I did make the mistake of overdoing it in the beginning as I cycle to work and back everyday which is about a 10 round trip and didn't really include this in my exercise regime, so I'd go for a run or go to the gym and not have any rest days at all...my knee got quite bad at one point.

I would say to you, as long as you make sure you give yourself some rest days from the running or impact exercise, then you should be fine...As Gary says, listen to your body and if you feel as if your legs realy don't want to work, then they're probably telling you to give them a break! I bet your dog loves it when you start to jog!..I've often thought how lovely it would be to run with a dog bounding along with me.

Fiona - I have 2 friends who both have had pain in their hips - Specific stretches for that area really helped them and the pain seemed to go after a few days. It could be a shoe thing though...? I've also recently started to try farleks - trying to get a little faster...

Well done too Gary for starting the running again - I'm sure you'll be running your 1st 10k very soon!

Cheerio,
Kate




06/08/2002 at 06:20
Thanks Kaytee - It's always so nice to be given a glimmer of hope by someone who's been through the initial pain barrier and lived to tell the tale ;) There's always room for optimists and motivators in the 32 club.
06/08/2002 at 09:22
Gary, what time do you get up in the mornings!!?? Posting at 6.20 am? And welcome Kaytee! We'll just have to rename our club for you. Any suggestions? Nice to see what people look like, isn't it?

Fiona
06/08/2002 at 10:54
Can I join the 32 club even though I am 25? I only started running about 2 years ago when I did the Race For Life in 2000. I was always one of the last to finish cross country at school and I only took up running to lose weight.
I joined a running club last year and found I really enjoy running (even when its hard), the club give me loads of support and motivation.
I am not what I would call a natural runner, I do find it very hard and my pace can only be defined as slow, but the sense of achievement I get from it is fantastic. Like the rest of you I try to listen to my body to make sure I am not overdoing it, but I sometimes wonder if I could push myself a bit harder as I am not getting any faster.
Cath I find walking is actually quite a good opportunity to stretch out the mussles and I do try to walk on a day when I am not running or swimming.

Daisy
06/08/2002 at 18:26
Hello everyone. I started running in Jan 2001 and last night I was reading through my old training diary. It really amazed me how much those initial 3 mile runs really hurt. The first mile or so was always agony. So don't be put off by reading about people doing much longer runs or having the committment to get in loads of training. For me (and I reckon lots of other runners) the toughest committment and the most pain came in those first few weeks and months. (although a marathon does hurt!)

So you've all taken the hardest step and done some of your hardest runs already.
06/08/2002 at 18:54
Neil, thank goodness you posted that :) I'm into my second week and moved up to the two second jog/walk thing and it was agony - mainly because of the sore shins. I'm ice packing and having anti-inflammatories at the moment and off to the Trafford Centre tonight to get more running shoes and ditching the trail shoes. We'll see how it goes.

Daisy & Kate - Hi!!! Of course you can join in :) and Daisy - I love the walks - I'm 3x daily with the dog so the legs don't get much let up. Even though I said I was over weight, I am pretty fit really considering and like you my main motivation was to lose weight! and it's working seemingly.

Oh and Guys ... I must be mental. It is the Liverpool Corporate Cup (5K) on the 8th September and our workplace usually enter a couple of teams. I've been talked into running for the team ... oh God!! 4 weeks and hopefully I'll be doing better than I am today :)
06/08/2002 at 21:59
Cath
You must have my old legs! I also came into running with a reasonable level of fitness, so I used to find the pain from those initial runs really frustrating. My feet used to really slam into the pavement so hard and my shins would hurt like hell. I used to spend more time warming up, cooling down and stretching that I did running.

10 months later and I was finishing the New York marathon.
06/08/2002 at 22:56
Daisy - you sound just like me (i.e. hating running at school and only starting as a way to lose weight...If someone had told me 6 months ago that I'd be able to run over 6 miles and actaully ENJOY it I would've laughed!

Cath - well done for letting yourself be talked into the 5k - Go for it! Keep us informed of how the training goes!

Neil - you've just inspired me to look at my dairy to see what I wrote when I first started ...just had a giggle at the bit I wrote after week 1 where the lift had broken and I couldn't walk down the stairs!
07/08/2002 at 10:14
Hi folks
wise words from Neil there, it is so daunting slogging your guts out round a 3/4 miler and then to meet people training for marathons doing 15 mile training runs, and the fast guys at clubs who do speedwork and fartlek on a regular basis.
I'm just returning from a long break from running, so it is especially frustrating running routes I could do once manage easily about 5 mins slower now.
I've also been talked into a 5k, not until October, so I felt I have got a bit of time to work up to it. I know I can do the distance, but I would like to do it as a PB. Hope I'm not too ambitious there.
I guess I will have to try some speed sessions - although I am a bit of a lazy Daisy when it comes to hard work, and I feel a bit of a plonker doing speedwork by myself - lone female runners attract so much attention as it is - so any suggestions to start me off would be appreciated. I might even start a training diary.
Cath what kind of dog have you got?

Daisy
07/08/2002 at 11:10
Morning all

Thought i'd wait a bit before I posted today ;) I'm usually up and about at 5am and that's my quiet time for checking through the message boards - usually to inspire me before I set off for my morning heave.

Maybe we should start thinking about opening a new thread called "The 25 -32 beginners club" - lol - that way we can keep chasing each other up. I know when i'm sat here seriously doubting whether I can be bothered to go out and do something you guys give me a lift.
07/08/2002 at 12:13
Hi,

This is great!!! A friend gave me this website as I told him I wanted to start running. I agreed with him that I would go from being a professional couch potatoe to running the Bath half marathon in February/March. Having got lots of feedback on this from this website I have decided to aim for a 5k first, then a 10k and moving on from there.

I, like others, used to be the last one in from school runs. It's great to hear that others similar to me are now dedicated enjoyment runners.

Usually I say that I want to do something, think about it for a while and then loose interest. Reading people's threads I'm really looking forward to starting. I have (old habits die hard) waited until I got some decent running shoes, but I've found a running shop and am going straight there after work today! WOHOO!!

It's really nice reading your messages.

THANKS for the motivation you have unknowingly given me!

Sabine
ps, I'm a 32club wanna-be. I'm 21.

07/08/2002 at 13:45
Hi y'all, Nice to meet you.
I began running last April with the aim of losing weight. I'd never stuck to a fitness regime for more than a month but 3 months on I've lost 20lbs and only have another 20 to go. The first time I ran I stopped after half a mile, everything hurt, I've since competed in two 5ks and am training for my first 10k.
It took a while for my joints and muscles to get used to the extra exercise. I've had shin splints and get aching hips still but my body seems to have adapted to my new found pleasure.
The experience of achieving a new distance, time or completing a race is exhilerating. I could quite happily get addicted to running!

Laura
07/08/2002 at 19:25
Kaytee & Neil -- Hi again Guys. I went training today.... we (colleague who has appointed himself my personal trainer and I) decided to ditch the beginner schedule just for today ... the aim being to see what kind of distance I can cover without stopping (pushing myself) and so from that we can devise a training plan (within reason) for the next four weeks. So I went to the gym with the colleague from work who is a fitness fanatic and I ran without too much pain 1.62 miles over 20 minutes. I'm not sure this is any good but I was pleased that I managed to keep going and I have to be honest the only reason I stopped then was the shin splints were agaony. I wasn't short of breath or exhausted ... just hurting. Having said that, I bought a new pair of Asics GT-2070 running shoes last night and the shin splints pain was and is far less than it has been over the last few days. So - tell me I'm mental, but I've decided to try to train through it until it gets less so I'm going to run every other day. I train again on Friday with the boss (whose team I'm in for the race).

Gary -- that's a great idea! I feel exactly the same way. I normally run in the morning too so I'm up fairly early but like Sabine, I find the encouragement and motivation here is just brilliant. Since I started coming here no-one has said I'm stupid or daft for trying stuff out... in fact people have only mentioned how to be careful.

Sabine -- I agree with you. This place is a great motivation point for me too :)

Daisy -- I've got a huge mental Golden Retriever called Oscar :)

Laura -- Hi there :)
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