Giving up the booze

Can I?!!!

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09/02/2013 at 09:06
Hi All,

Yes good runnning AG.

SL sounds good about the injury, and glad you got out for some form of a run.

I don't have any windows in my room, (??23 a night), I struggled to get to sleep, but it was only people getting a shower that I woke up lol.

I promised myself to work on my boat this morning, but I feel so tired that I'm just going to sit in one of my beauty spots and chill.

The sun is out for a change.

SL were English and an Island. At some point or other we all had ancestors connected to the sea, perhaps thats why we all feel relaxed by the sea at times.

Hope your all okay.
09/02/2013 at 14:01
Hi All,

Hope your all okay? What busy lifes you seem to have.

Well it wasn't a training session, but I walked down to the harbour and came back up a steep hill, instead of catching the bus up, and had the best fish and chips in ages. I ended up pulling 6 buckets of bilge water from the cockpit. Shows you just how much rain we have had.

Enyoy your weekend all.
09/02/2013 at 16:46


No busy life here sinbad, just not been on. Fish and chips sounded nice

Apparently we are due some more snow!

10/02/2013 at 15:43
Hi All,

AG I'm jealous of the distances your doing.

As I have stated, I don't work, but I'm using running to try and build up some form of daily routine. I tried trainning as and when I felt like it, but found myself putting it off day after day.

Big question about distance.

I am finding the hills a big help, for instance running 6 miles in Scarborough with few problems. But I have found that when I'm increasing the distance (weekly), my overall distance for the week suffers. For instance 15 miles last week, but this week just 10.5.

Is this someting I need to worry about?

I must stress the distance seems to be building on individual runs, but not increasing over the whole week.

I'm jealous of you living by the sea Cinder's. I should never have come back up North from Plymouth. I came back for a lady and her kids, it didn't work out alas, they couldnt cope with pts bpd.

For those in this thread. who are happily married fionce etc. Never just use this one day a year to show your love and determination for you to stay together as a team, in your loving rtelationship. The grass is never greener on the other side.

I lost two ladies I love dearly to this day. Show that love you share in any way you both can. Enjoy all your Valantines day. That's my attempt to show support for you all.
10/02/2013 at 20:38

Hi All,

Way hey I got my emicons back

10/02/2013 at 22:30
Evening everyone, I hope you're all well.

sinbad - it must be hard when people who matter so much to you can't cope with your health conditions. You have to live with pts and bpd everyday so it must be more difficult than I can imagine for these elements of who you are to have such an impact on your life. Your boat project sounds great but I imagine it's hard work. If I lived nearby I'd offer you a hand as doing a bit of outdoor work does appeal to me, although not always when it comes to keeping my garden tidy!

SL - I hope your feet are recovering from last weekend - the fact that you did a 6.5m run suggests they are! I have to say that I am more than a little bit in awe of you and HTF for your achievements recently.

AG - you're becoming another very inspirational contributor to the thread - it seems like you're running well and have a good level of control over your booze intake. That's what we all aspire towards here and I hope I'll step up and join you some day soon.

I hope everyone else is good.
11/02/2013 at 07:58

Hi All,

Thanks for that apparition. It just gets hard being on your own at times.

Its been snowing again last night, a light covering of snow on the ground.

It means I can't get out for a run, and no money to get to the gym, so it may be Wednesday before I get out. I'm panicking now with lack of milage.

But glad people are getting out for thier runs though.

Keep at it people.

Hope all ok

11/02/2013 at 15:02

Morning campers. Hope the grim weather isn't putting everyone off their running. I enjoyed my swim last week, Wednesday night i think it was, or Thursday I can't remember. Anyway, another few laps unaided for me (which is a big deal, as i've always been a poor swimmer, and have a bit of anxiety about being in the water, but i'm slowly learning to relax into it).

I had a 7mile recovery jog planned for Friday, but because of time constraints had to trim it to 5.5 miles, but still felt good.

My 18mile run on Saturday felt a bit pooey though. In terms of pacing it was pretty much bang on what i'd planned, but i never really got into the groove of it, and was a bit sluggish. Cold, drizzly, grey weather didn't help and I think i just wanted to get it over with. Not a great mood to be in for a run that took 3 hours, but hey ho, I banked the miles so there we go.

Was going out to a friend's 40th on Saturday night. Glad i did my long run on Saturday afternoon because after 4 pints on Saturday night i felt a bit worse for wear on Sunday. Didn't feel like a hangover, but was certainly stiff. My back and shoulders are still a bit stiff. I don't think 4pints is really the best post-run treatment, but i suppose you've got to let your hair down sometimes.

so that's 14 units for me so far in Feb. Might have a glass of wine on Thursday because i'm taking Mrs AG out for a valentines dinner. Otherwise I don't think i've got any boozy nights out planned for the next 2 weeks, so should keep the booze intake down. I've got my first 20mile run coming up this Sunday, which is the longest in my marathon plan (there are a couple more at that distance, but the plan doesn't go beyond that) so i'll be trying to ensure i get some decent sleep and lots of nice food this week so i'm in good shape for that.

keep it up chaps and chapettes.


11/02/2013 at 18:24

Evening all, not nice out there again is it.  No running here again - gone back down with the lurgy.  Just a cold but they tend to wipe me out thanks to the crohns 

AG, glad you're getting to enjoy swimming - I love it.  The only thing about swimming I don't like is the changing rooms - always bits of people's body hair lurking somewhere - yuk   Can I offer some advice - I know your plan doesn't go over 20 miles in training but I'd seriously suggest you do a 22 and even up to a 24.   It really will help on the day, you're legs will get less of a shock  but also the last 6 miles of a marathon are mostly in the mind - if you've done 22 or 24 you can tell yourself it's only 2 more miles to go - and you know 2 miles is easy........

11/02/2013 at 18:47


It's yuk again isn't it SL?  When is some warmer or even drier weather coming?

Hope you feel better soon SL, too many lurgies going round

AG, glad you're feeling easier in the water?  Did you have a bad experience to cause the anxiety?

Have you still got snow sinbad?  We had a dusting last night but it melted so maybe yours will be gone by tomorrow?

12/02/2013 at 10:57

Hi All,

I start with a wo ho.

I managed 7.46 miles this morning, in a moving time of 2hours 10 minutes. I'm really pleased with that. Although may not be as fast as all you in here, but its so hilly in the Yorkshkre Dales, and I had to watch out for ice on the pavements, where there any pavements.

What made up for ice were the scenes of snow on the surrounding hills.

Apparition your welcome to give me a hand with boat anytime, work never stops on her.

AG good going with thee swimming, it takes time but you will get there. Good going ith the training, its always good when you at least bank in the miles. Agreed AG with letting your hair down, I still feel your doing well in cutting down, stopping the beer. Wow with the distance, I'm only up to 7 miles.

SL the running will look after itself, sorry to hear about the cold coming back. This weather does nt help you, but spring is just around the corner.

Its more like Ice than snow now Cinder's. I had  to take it easy on paths until they just became roads. Forecast says snow again tonight, just got to wait and see.

I got merry yesterday, one reason why I was determined to do a eun today. But there was some goods news. SL i'm back having two pints of fresh orange (it really does help), and instead of spending loads  on beer, I got some cereal and other fresh food, and still a little cash in pocket, so it was an interesting and successful two days.

12/02/2013 at 11:52

well done on getting the miles in Sinbad. just careful of the icy conditions. No fun going over on your arse in the cold

Cinders, yep I almost drowned in a swimming pool when I was about 4 or 5. Had to be fished out and water pushed out of me. Nice! I'm not so afraid of the water that I can't go in a pool, or even the sea, I just don't really like being out of my depth. I start to tense up, which isn't good for relaxed floating. Dealing with it little by little. It's the only real thing that causes me anxiety, or that I have any phobia of. My girlfriend reminded me of that when I was being a dick a while ago and saying something like "i don't understand what's so difficult about losing weight, why don't people just not eat so much and exercise more". She pointed out that perhaps they don't see what's so difficult in jumping in a pool, and that everyone has their hangups. That kind of brought me back down to earth. I remind myself of that whenever I find myself being a bit dismissive of something I might find easy. Everyone has their own achilles and it's not fair of me to scoff when i'm not in their shoes.

Sunluvva, I take your point about the long runs, I was thinking of making my last 20miler a 22 miler. I think 24 might just be pushing it for me. I know the elites often go up to, or even beyond the race distance in their training, but at my training pace, i'd be out there for 4 hours, so might just take a little too much out of me.

12/02/2013 at 12:45

Hi All,

One day at a time with the swimming AG

12/02/2013 at 13:05

Snow's melted here but we did have another flurry this morning.  My daffs are shooting up and in bud - I'm sure they'll bloom at the first sight of sun or warmth 

Well done on the run and the OJ and healthy food, a wise choice.  Don't worry about times at all if you're running in hilly areas - even the elite runners take much longer when there are hills involved!

You're doing well just swimming at all AG if you've had such a scary experience!  How long is it till the marathon - if you can get the 24 miles in and have time to cut down to a 17/18 wk 1, then half marathon next week, 10k the next and the race the week after you'll be fine and will have recovered before the race itself.  If you're going at a slower training pace then the time on your feet will help not hinder.

I'm having another lazy day today, I was so tired when I got up this morning my legs didn't want to work on the walk to school!  Training at the agency was cancelled so I went k to bed for an hour but couldn't sleep.  I might have a little trot tomorrow and Thurs just to remind my legs what running is so they don't get a shock at Brighton 1/2m on Sunday but then I'm going to have a whole week to 10 days of no running and concetrating on getting back to my 100% raw food diet so I can be well again. I can't stand this fatigue and going down with one virus after the other - it's getting to me now so time to take radical action!

12/02/2013 at 14:43

SL, are you and HTF both doing Brighton this weekend?

Good running sinbad

AG, you really are doing well after that experience.  I was worried when they had to fish little C out of the pool the other month but thankfully he is ok.  I only found out last month that the reason my dad couldn't swim was that he had a similar experience at a young age. 

12/02/2013 at 16:00

yeah, i've always been quite cautious around water, and was jealous when I was a kid of the other kids who would be playing about in the water apparently carefree, whilst i'd either make excuses for getting in, or get in but always keep one eye on how far i was from the edge of the pool.

then i grew up and spent less time around the water, and ignored the problem, but last year I decided i was missing out on a lot of potential fun, so started tentative steps to sort it out. now i'm kind of ok in the water, but still get tense out of my depth, so just keep going to the pool and getting used to it. Seems to be working so far. My breathing has improved, and i can do a few lengths without getting knackered, although if i swallow water or breathe at the wrong time and inhale any i do freak out a bit. baby steps.

12/02/2013 at 17:26

Hi All,

those baby steps appear to be working AG.

SL the Manchester Marathon is about 10 weeks away, April 28th.

That thought really scared me into action. I'm going to have 2 long runs a week instead of one, and as you said work on the distance, with runs of 2 to 5 miles on a daily basis.

SL sounds good about the half marathon.

Question, I have noticed (more on treadmil than road), that my legs feel shaky. Is this common, when building up distance etc?

Is it possible to get up to 20 miles in 10 weeks?

I made mistake of working on 5k speed rather than distance.

Cinder's how's your training going?

12/02/2013 at 18:29

Sinbad, are you doing the manchester marathon too? I'll be at that one.

If i'm reading your question correctly, do you mean is it possible to build up to a long run of 20miles in 10 weeks? I guess the answer depends on the shape you're currently in, and your capacity to train whilst avoiding injury.

You'd want to do a 2week or 3week taper, so your last long run, of 20 miles, would be on either 7th or 14th April. You would draw a straight line between now and that date, with the 20mile run on the 7th (or 14th) and your current long run from last weekend. Increase the mileage for each weekly long run, remembering to stagger it a bit, so you have some rest weeks each third or fourth week where you run maybe 75% of the previous week's distance. After hitting the peak mileage, you'd then taper for 2 or 3 weeks, ramping down to avoid injury and make sure you're fresh for race day.

so, just to illustrate, you might be on 10 miles for last Sunday, and each subsequent sunday between now and your peak would be something like:

12mi, 14mi, 16mi, 13mi, 17mi, 18mi, 15mi, 20mi, 16mi, 12mi, RACE

Now, ideally, you'd be able to ramp up to 20miles before that date and have about 3 runs of 20miles or so. But depending on where you're at now, that might not be possible. The suggestion above is just that, it's not prescriptive, you should always listen to your body and if adjust your training accordingly.

For example, i'm doing my first 20 miles this Sunday, then again in about 3 weeks time, then again on 7th April, and on the sundays in between this i'll be doing between 14 and 18, depending on the week, and whatever other training i've got planned for that week. But then i've been very slowly ramping up the miles for the past 7 weeks, from about 12 miles around xmas to now. Adding miles quickly increases the injury risk. So it is possible to get to a 20mile long run in 10 weeks, but it's a steep climb, depending where you're starting from.

And yes, it's normal for your legs to feel shaky, but if you feel pain then it's something to get looked at by a physio.

12/02/2013 at 18:50

Hi All,

Yes AG I am doing the Manchester Marathon. I just hope I can reach that 20 mile distance in time. Fair comment, aboout training, luckily I only have the boat and training for me.

Thanks for that AG, I will try that wha you have suggested. I'm glad thatt Its not just me with the shaky legs. Its just not been weather, its been storms with gale force winds here. Hopefully, we will get a settled period of weather.

A word of warning with tthe weather. The snow that has fallen in New York, may hit us. As we tend  to get our weather from across the Atlantic Ocean.

Hope your all okay.


Hope your all okay

13/02/2013 at 09:17

Morning All,

How is everyone?

Well I surprised myself and got up an hour erliar for a run. Ithink I expected too much for myself as the timewas 47.37 for 5k.etting up my with a mile in 10.08.

But I did surprise myself, by getting up my nemisis of a hill, and not stopping at all through the 5k only second time I managed that.

Weather forecast in Manchester is snow, turning to rain later. The snow is movng eastwards.

Hope people prep for training is going as best they can.

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