You don't need to fuel on a half marathon, you won't run out of glycogen that quickly. And you don't need to drink on a winter half marathon, assuming you live in Britain.
the (easter) eggyptian toe wrote (see)
Surely it depends on how long you are running for LA?! I reckon each individual is different.
No, because the thread is about half marathons. If it was about marathons or further then I may agree with you.
Glycogen isn't drip fed into your system at a constant rate, it's like the excellerator linked to a carburetor, the faster you run the faster you will run out of glycogen, the slower you run the longer it will last, in other words it doesn't matter if you're fast or slow, it's relevent to distance. This glycogen expenditure rate can be offset by training, which in reallity just means you'll be faster for longer, not go for longer unless you slow down to a drastically slower pace than you're used to.
So the answer is still no, you don't need fuel for a half marathon. It's all in the mind. If you think you're tired and need a boost, you will slow down.
That makes it one less thing to think about ! I have been learning so much about physiology/biology since I started running.
As for water, I'll see how far I'm running without it closer to the time, at the moment anything about 6.5 miles or under I don't drink anything.
Lisa - thought you were going to be doing Steyning
- I'd like to run that as well. I want to do the marathon, has been an ambition of mine for the past couple of years. Started training for it last year then was offered a club place for London so ran that instead. I am not fit enough to run 2 marathons that close together.
Agree with LA about fuelling - hm don't, though drinking maybe reasonable, I wouldn't in training but in a race I tend to. Have to admit all my hm have been summer - autumn
How far are you running on your long runs? Guess about 12-13 miles? - 1,000 kcals (I burn around 80 kcal / mile) If you're running in the locale you should be well placed. There are some nice hills around Steying and out to Washington over the Downs. Would love to live there again.
I've been training now for about 18 months and run three HMs so no great experience but here's what I've found.
For my first HM I trained about 3 times a week with weekly mileage of 20 - 25 miles most of which were slow easy miles with my LSR being between 10 - 13 miles.This got me in the sort of shape to run a flat HM (Chester) in 2:03 which I was really happy with but I felt with a bit more/smarter training I could do better.
For my second HM (Anglesey 2-3 miles killer hill to the finish) I upped my training to between 30 - 35 miles per week and ran 4 times per week. Most of my LSR were 13 miles or so. I also introduced some speedwork on one day a week. Not sure which was most useful ..... the speedwork or the extra miles (probably) but I finished Anglesey in just over 2 hours. Again very happy but was sure there was still more time to come off if I was smarter I'd gone off way to quickly and paid for it in the last 3 miles. I guess what I'm saying here is know your course !
So, onto my third HM (Conwy big climb in the middle) Again upped my weekly mileage to between 35-40 miles per week and added a second "quality" session. V. happy with the result from this as I finished in just under 1:54. I think this was again due to a mix of extra easy miles and the occasional speedy but
Got to agree with both LD and BM about the fueling .... I took drinks with me on both the first and second HMs as I thought I "needed" them but didn't on the third. I stopped taking them on my LSR and realised I didn't need them.
If you are finding that you are walking part of your LSR it might be worth building them in as part of your race plan. Although your ultimate goal is to run the HM you could build in short walk breaks at around the mileages that the drinks stations will be in the actual HM. Psychologically it's better to plan stops that be forced into them
Before my first HM I was also feeling very tired but as I've got fitter the tiredness has disappeared even on the higher mileage weeks.
Anyway, enough of my ramblings hope this may be some use ?
Oops, I meant to post a link to another thread I found really useful .... I know there's a lot to read here but it does contain some "pearls of wisdom"
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and it appear that if you edit a post the link goes flakey !
Hope you don't mind me joining the thread. I too have my first half marathon in a couple of weeks. Buzzing Bee - mine is on the 27th too. I'm doing the one in Blackpool - are you?
I was originaly working off a training plan that was devised by smartcoach, but for some reason I couldn't settle into it, so I switched over to another. I've already completed this training and finished it before Christmas. My plan was to keep the maintenance up unti the race, but unfortunately I got ill, then Christmas, etc and a few weeks had passed before I knew it - so I've started the plan again half way.
I've just done 10 miles today - bit slower than I would have liked. The race predictor on here (based on my previous race time) estimates I will do it in 2hrs 30, so am aiming for that. But like you Lisa, anything under 3 hours and I'll be made up with that.
I only started running 9 months ago and never would have believed I would be running a half marathon! Good luck everyone on your runs
I'm not sure I entirely agree with the comment on nutrition above..... if you are running for less than 2 hours then you won't need any. From 2 hours on it is a good idea to start thinking about a gel every half an hour or so (or any other non-gel alternative if you can't stand gels).
As for fluids - this depends on the weather to a certain extent, but I would advise on taking a few mouthfuls of water every 3 miles or so. Carrying water is optional of course, but it's more weight to lug around so why bother.
For training, if you are after salt replacement for long runs have a look at either Nuun or High 5 Zero. Both tablet form which you drop into the water. No sugars but all the salts you need if you are sweating loads.
Good luck folks... and I will see some of you at Stinger half - i will be the short bloke in a Pirate top.
Hi everyone, can I join you - I'm planning a half this year (but later in the year) haven't signed up yet I'm a painfully slow plodder so I'm looking for something with a big friendly field. My endurance isn't bad but my speed (or lack thereof) is my main concern.
Thanks for adding your experiences flip flop interesting reading.
K - there are a lt of races that are friendly. They don't all have big fields, some are small. I quite like small races though when you are running alone and there is no one in sight it can feel lonely.
Any race you have in mind?
.PSC - if you are taking a gel then you need to take water with it otherwise you wont benefit from the gel - the opposite, it will have a detrimental effect on your running.
Personally I prefer not to take anything.
JESS - good luck for Blackpool.
Biker-Mouse... have a look at the new High5 range of gels (IsoGels) - you don't need to take water with them. Although I do agree that with most gels you do need water as well to help the ingestion.
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