Matrix Rehashed

what a load of rubbish

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23/05/2003 at 10:19
Thanks for trying GLbG - at least that gives me the reason in the film, even if I don't find it terribly credible! Seems a bit like a concept to patch over an obvious flaw!
23/05/2003 at 10:26
First Movie Question

How come : If the baddies can see everything in the Matrix through the eyes of everyone who is part of the Matrix, and even become (take over) anyone in the Matrix - The Oracle and everyone around her is still free to carry on their struggle????

Surely if she's part of the Matrix the baddies will know what she sees and does and destroy her instantly.

Is there an answer to this or should I :

i. Get me coat

ii. Suspend belief and just enjoy it

23/05/2003 at 10:33
things do become clearer after seeing the new movie. basically all characters are programs/software, the majority of which are linked to a person in the physical world. Agents are just software as well as others
23/05/2003 at 10:34
did that make sense ?
23/05/2003 at 10:38
Cheers GLbG. I knew you could say something that would make me want to go and see it. ;)
23/05/2003 at 10:39
Surely this is the most highly marketed film of all time? That makes me dubious from the start.

I liked the first one - but it wasn't the BEST film I have ever seen. I am sure this one will be good - everyone likes a good car chase.

I have heard that the "philosophy" behind it and the story are lacking slightly though.

Will prolly watch it tomorrow though - if I can get tickets.
23/05/2003 at 10:56
The Matrix is a quality film - one of the best ever.

FR - you cant just unplug people cause it would cause mental trauma - the film works on the principle that if the mind dies so does the body so unplugging will kill the mind and therefore the body. Plus, if they could just unplug the film would have been rubbish - they wouldn't have needed most of it.

Scotty - I think the agents can 'choose' to take over certain people and see through their eyes but they don't automatically know what everybody is thinking. I think. Otherwise go for option ii.

Finally - all the Star Wars film were and still are the best EVER.

'nuff said.
23/05/2003 at 11:39
morning guys,

i haven't seen the first part. should i see it before going to see the second?

or just a quick update should be enough?
WildWill    pirate
23/05/2003 at 11:44
And the twins used to be on the BBCs better homes
23/05/2003 at 11:45
I recommend seeing the first one jose...
23/05/2003 at 11:53
i'll rent it on video this weekend.

i forgot it was on the telly on wedsday and missed it.
WildWill    pirate
23/05/2003 at 11:54
According to the Wachowskis, the secret is in the name, so:

Neo
Anagram of "One", also means "new".

Trinity
In most Christian faiths, the union of three divine persons, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, in one God.

Morpheus
In Greek mythology, Morpheus was one form of the god of dreams (the other being Oneiros). His job was to fashion dreams, as the gods desired them to be sent to men. In this task he was assisted by Icelus, who fashioned those dreams that had all the appearance of reality, by Phobetor, the author of alarming dreams, and Phantasus, who tricked sleepers with innumerable and strange phenomena. But we find Morpheus also represented in the capacity of a sort of watchman and guardian of dreams, as Aeolus was of the winds.

Nebuchadnezzar (Hovership)
King Nebuchadnezzar delivered Babylon from its dependence on Assyria and laid Nineveh in ruins. He was the greatest and most powerful of all the Babylonian kings.

Niobe
In Greek mythology, Niobe was the daughter of Tantalus and wife of Amphion, the king of Thebes. She was contemptuous of the goddess Leto for having produced only two children, Apollo and Artemis. She died of grief when her own 12 offspring were killed by them in revenge, and was changed to stone by Zeus.

Persephone
Persephone was a Greek goddess. She was the daughter of Zeus and Demeter. Hades obtained sanction from Zeus to carry her off by force and marry her. Was abducted by Hades but rescued by her mother and thereafter spent six months of the year on earth and six months in the underworld.

Merovingian (The French fella)
A ruling dynasty of one of the Germanic tribes of the Rhine region in the early Christian era, especially one of the Salian Franks who conquered Gaul about A.D. 500 and established an extensive empire that reached its greatest power in the ninth century.

Seraph (The glowing Kung Foo dude)
A celestial being having three pairs of wings.

Lazarus
In the New Testament, the brother of Mary and Martha.

Kain (Operator on the Nebuchadnezzar)
Kain and Abel were Adam's (As in Adam and Eve) sons. There was a bit of a reference of Zee mentioning that Dozer was her brother, and that she didn't want to loose Kain also. May or may not be pertinent.

23/05/2003 at 12:00
didnt Nebuchadnezzar end up eating grass like a cow?

I thought the Kain in the bible was spelt 'Cain'? Cain murdered his brother didn't he?

Thanks for the run down W - There's something not right about that picture though....

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