Shoe Buying Etiquette

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17/12/2013 at 17:46

Need new running shoes.

Monies a bit tight what with Christmas so popped down to my local (chain) running shop to see if they had any bargains/discounts on. While there got into a discussion with one of the sales people and they talked about getting my gait analysis checked as it hasn't been done in quite a while. 

Have seen some great deals online and in other shops for shoes but would feel bad about getting the gait stuff done and then buying shoes elsewhere. Then again if I don't it would be like paying £30 for the gait analysis.

I'm sure I'm not the only person to have pondered this..... what should I do?

 

Cake    pirate
17/12/2013 at 17:51

Postie You could just have the gait and buy them this time and then buy them cheap of the internet next time?

Not sure if any help but don't forget comrade we all get a little extra in our wages this week after the CWU deal if any good, asuming you are postie.

17/12/2013 at 17:53

Monies a bit tight? Oh dear you won't be drinking this Christmas will you? You will? Oh then it's just an ethical decision then isn't it?

17/12/2013 at 18:01

i have done this on many occasions, i think there are bigger ethical worries out there to be honest.  after gait analysis the shop can only offer you the trainers they have in store in your size. So would you buy a pair of brooks in bright green because they are out of asics that you wanted, just to be nice to the local store?

just say you are not sure and want to do a bit of research before buying but thank them for their time.  i do shop local on all items that i cant get significantly cheaper on line. 

My last pair of asics were £109 in store or £49 on line.  not a tough decision for me

Edited: 17/12/2013 at 18:02
17/12/2013 at 18:12
Cake wrote (see)

Not sure if any help but don't forget comrade we all get a little extra in our wages this week after the CWU deal if any good, asuming you are postie.

Yes am 100% card carrying CWU postie. I always wait until the money is in the bank when it comes to RM as we're still owed money (£200) we were promised for our last revision   (the bloody 'park & loop one) Not the place to discuss it but credit where credit is due the CWU have come in for a lot stick but this deal isn't half bad if it gets the nod on the shop floor. 

Anyway noticed that the chain as a whole does have a sale/discount section wonder if I could order from that?

 

 

Edited: 17/12/2013 at 18:15
17/12/2013 at 18:24
Sussex Grinch wrote (see)

Monies a bit tight? Oh dear you won't be drinking this Christmas will you? You will? Oh then it's just an ethical decision then isn't it?

You make a perfectly fair point but in the grander scheme of things we're looking to more to a larger house in the next few months which means putting down a large chunk of cash. With prices having risen 12% in the last year around here the later we leave it the more its going to cost.

So, yes its going to be a frugal christmas.  

17/12/2013 at 19:27

In the grand scheme of things with your new big house i'm sure an extra tenner on your shoes will matter not. Tight wad.

17/12/2013 at 19:50

Surely the ethics of this are bleeding obvious?!?

OK, a hint: if you're not planning to buy their stuff, stay the feck out of their shop. See if a website will analyse your gait, or give you advice, etc etc ...

17/12/2013 at 20:10

I'm sure I'm not the only person to have pondered this..... what should I do?

Do what ever *you* think is morally right.

For me the axiom
"Do to others as you would have them do to you"
works pretty well.
So if you ran said running shop, how would you feel about people coming in, wasting your time with no intention of buying shoes? Personally I'd think it's a pretty shitty thing for people to do to me, so I wouldn't do it to others.
Other people have different morals and come to different conclusions.

Edited: 17/12/2013 at 20:19
17/12/2013 at 20:25
Forget morals, Because business are not moral. Think about what is best for you, like shop owners do. I had one gait analysis done but the shop pushed do hard trying to sell me orthotics, that I was very happy when they didn't gave the shoes that they recommended in my size.
I would have no issue with what you suggest, nor would I be embarrassed about asking for a bit of a discount if I could buy shoes cheaper elsewhere.
Your money is better in your pocket. Morals are too expensive.
XX1
17/12/2013 at 20:26

There's no conclusive evidence that gait analysis provides any real benefit so unless you are adamant that it works for you it probably isn't worth bothering with...  Either buy a sale/discounted pair from a store or a cheap online deal if you know what you'll be buying will be comfortable.

XX1
17/12/2013 at 20:32

Just ask the guy straight out if he'll match the internet price for you before you take up any of his time.

 

17/12/2013 at 20:39

Forget morals, Because business are not moral. Think about what is best for you, like shop owners do

Everything you do in life is moral. Everything.

If your morals say "Shaft the other person, because they'd shaft you", that's fine. But don't for a moment think you're not making a moral judgement there.

17/12/2013 at 20:44

Too right Ian. When the high street is full of charity shops and estate agents lets see where the "fuck you " attitude gets them.

17/12/2013 at 20:46

Do the shops have morals ? Is the only reason they are in business so that they can please their customers ?

Same as Puffy says, check with them for a price match. 

17/12/2013 at 20:50

Running shops are not the same as H&M. We have a shop here in Brighton that organises races, training runs and lots more. 

17/12/2013 at 21:11
I might agree with chain shops but the shop I'm buying my shoes from is run by 1 person and he does remember me when I go there ( even remembers my shoe size), is always very helpful and we have a chat about event, races etc. Now, do I want a shop like this disappear in favour of online shops? No. Thats why I go there and spend a bit more money on my shoes and luckily I'm in a position that I can afford to do this.
18/12/2013 at 01:30
Ian M, I should have written that most businesses are immoral, as that is what I meant but was just tapping keys and watching tv. My point is that I do not apply my own morals when dealing with immoral people or organisations, which I guess makes me immoral too, sometimes..

Grinchy, not all shops are like your local.
I am against those who try to force you to buy orthotics by telling you it is a free service and then ringing in ??40 when you get to the till because they are just immoral scumbags and no better than sports direct. The other thing they do is call it a free gait analysis despite adding ??20 onto every pair of shoes to cover it...

I had one gait analysis and would have paid the extra ??20 but they didn't have my size, so I waited for a 10% off day and bought them online and saved ??30.

If the shop will not price match the average going rate for the shoes then it is not a free service. There is a shop in London which charges a fixed amount for gait analysis. I think that is an honest way to trade.
Edited: 18/12/2013 at 01:31
18/12/2013 at 08:19

I normally go to the store and have my gait done and buy one pair from them and then buy online once im happy with them. I've found that to be a fair way in my opinion of doing it.

My shop charges 20EUR if you want the analysis done without buying shoes but if you buy it - it's free. The price of the shoes is the RRP so i cannot complain too much.

18/12/2013 at 09:13
carterusm wrote (see)

Do the shops have morals ? Is the only reason they are in business so that they can please their customers ?

Same as Puffy says, check with them for a price match. 

If you're talking about sportsdirect, I'd agree. But there are plenty of relatively small running shops that are different.. and indeed some of the "chain" running shops might give the appearance of being big... but are actually franchises, and as such "one-person businesses" run by dedicated runners who love what they do.

Sure, they want to make a living...  but no need to be cynical about everybody who's in business.

Oh... and as for asking for a price match... there's no harm in asking.  But will you be asking your online shop for a "service-match"?

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