Treadmill Vs Outside

Delirium

12/05/2009 at 14:31

Any advice welcome for my "predicament". I am a bit of a gym freak and can run non stop very comfortably on the treadmill at speed of 10 for over 60 mins but when I try to run outside, I can hardly manage it! I have tried setting an incline on the treadmill but again this does not appear to help?!

Have a possible place in the Marathon next year and don't want to fudge it up by not being able to run for any longer than 20 mins!

Thanks for any help

Iron Pingu pirate

pirate

12/05/2009 at 14:36

You're probably running too fast when you're outside. It can take a while to establish your comfort pace without the treadmill. Slow down a bit and see how you do.

Delirium

12/05/2009 at 14:47

Thanks, will give that another go. Did try going quite a bit slower before but then ended up with really sore knees?!

Will try again though as don't want to be stuck running indoors for the rest of my life!

danowat

12/05/2009 at 14:50

Yeah, you get used to the treadmill setting your pace for you, so you have no way to judge pace without it, as a result you are probably running way too fast outside.

As for the knees, outside is tougher on the legs, I assume you are running in the correct shoe for your gait?.

Edited: 12/05/2009 at 14:51

Delirium

12/05/2009 at 15:01

Ah its a bit more clear! I just get really frustrated with myself thinking I should be able to at least run for 20 mins without being so out of breath!

Yes I went to a proper running shop and got fitted out for shoes, think its more likely the trying to run too quickly!

danowat

12/05/2009 at 15:08

The best way to do it is forget about pace for the time being, and concetrate on you PE (Percieved effort), try and get your PE outside, the same as you remember your PE being inside, also the "talk" test is a good one, have a little chat with yourself while you are running, if you struggle to string more than 3 or 4 words together, slow down untill you can.

Running outside it tougher (physically), but oh so much more rewarding.

Delirium

12/05/2009 at 15:11

Thanks for the advice and encouragement. I will start tonight, skip the gym and run outside instead.

I do often think about what I am missing by staying indoors!

Thanks

danowat

12/05/2009 at 15:15

Good luck, let us know how you get on.

Liverbird

pirate

12/05/2009 at 16:39

I love it outside. I ran through a little meadow yesterday and the bluebells were in full bloom......

That's better than Jasper Carrott and Golden Balls anyday of the week on the telly in the gym......

Delirium

12/05/2009 at 17:10

Haha! Defo better than that cruddy telly programme, though to be honest I put my Ipod on and take my glasses off so I can't actually see the TV, I feel better knowing its all a blur.....!!! hee hee

tricialitt

12/05/2009 at 20:14

Hi -I was a 100% indoors runner for about 2 years, and I've successfully trained for a first marathon primarily on tready, but have now taken to the streets, as it's so much nicer- I'll still revert to tready for speed interval sesions, or if it's pi$$ing rain outside.

I always put tready to 1% incline. I bought a Garmin for outdoors running- it is the best way I could come up with to pace myself, and I have slowly built up my outdoors distances- it takes a bit of getting used to ,but you'll get there- and on a day like this, it's a crime to be indoors!

Hemo

12/05/2009 at 22:39

Hi All, Im interested in knowing how accurate the distances are on a treadmill to being outdoors as I ran for 27mins on TM and it said 5.1km but last thursday I ran for 38mins at park and i had covered 7km . Does that sound right?

danowat

13/05/2009 at 07:14

I have no idea how accurate treadmills are, there is no easy way to check, but I wouldn't take them as accurate.

MrTheKidd

13/05/2009 at 07:57

I've used Nike+ on a treadmill and all of the numbers were completely different. I'd stick to the Nike+ (or other fine device) as it is calibrated to your specifics. I've used a treadmill quite a lot and now stick to outdoor running, it's only really good for increasing oxygen intake, and then it's nasty gym air, not fresh London air (lol!)

Russell Small

13/05/2009 at 09:24

I run both outdoors and on the treadmill - like Delirium I struggled with the change from gym to road.... however I purchased a polar HR with shoe pod sometime ago and found that I was running much faster on the road than in the gym e.g. in the gym I run at around 7mph but on the road it was nearer 8.5mph and I was kna***ed after 20mins - by adjusting my pace to just under 8mph on the road I found I could run for much longer and retrun more 'refreshed' - its all about pace !!!!

Tricky Dicky 465

13/05/2009 at 09:32

Hmm - interesting thread. I started running indoors about a month ago, purely to do some sort of excercise and I happened to have a decent TM at home. However, in the last week or so, having progressed quite nicely (albeit slowly) on the Treadmill, I have started to think about going "outside".

I too was wondering about the accuracy of the TM, so I'll keep an eye on that. I have a slight niggle at the mo but once that clears up I'm going to brave the outside world. We'll see how it goes !

runner72

13/05/2009 at 09:36

i use Nike+ outside as well - although i've just had to buy a new sensor. this needed calibrating - which i thought i'd do on a treadmill. all seemed fine until i went running round a known 5k loop of bushy park. my Nike+ only measured 4.3k. next day i calibrated it on a straight 1k run, then did another 4k - total = 4.4k!!?? bloomin' confusing. my old sensor was much more accurate and i can't seem to get this one even close! any ideas? back to the treadmill?

danowat

13/05/2009 at 09:42

Only idea I can suggest is get a GPS based system, not 100% accurate, but bloody close, my last 10k came out at 6.23 miles on my 405, which is a fraction of a percent out.

Rug 19

13/05/2009 at 09:49

inho-treadmills are only good for:

a) gentle rehab after certain lower limb injuries

b) training for...treadmill races!

They are part of the gym myth conspiracy in order for you to pay gym fees!

Running outside has so many advantages!

YNWA

13/05/2009 at 15:12

Did all my running for years on the dreadmill, but thanks to some advice from Wilkie managed to pluck up the courage to run outside. Could run easily for two hours a day on dreadmill but my first run outside had my legs burning and after an hour was close to chucking up. Found running outside so hard to start with, then a couple of people advised me to slow down and it has made all the difference. Can do my two hours now. It took just over a month for me to get used to outdoor running but are so glad i stuck with it. Trust the advice you have been given by others on this thread. It may take time but you will get there. I only use the dready for speed sessions now, totally converted.

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