I'm sure there are loads hanging about here...
Can anyone confirm if the term 'troops' in Napoleonic era was only applied to cavalry or if it could be used for any type of army force?
I've found this in an etymology dictionary, which doesn't really answer my question:
1630s, “soldier in a cavalry troop,” agent noun from troop. Extended to "mounted policeman" (1858, in Australian) then to "state policeman" (U.S.) by 1911.
In my 400-odd-page 'Waterloo Companion' the word 'troops' seems to be used referring to any type of force, but a colleague insists that this is modern usage and it would be incorrect in a historical context. I don't suppose anyone can point me in the direction an answer.....?
I do, of course and as usual, apologise for this.
Household cavalry was formed by Charles the 2nd I think as a bodyguard. Cavalry soldiers, are given the term Trooper on entry to the regiment as a lower ranked soldier.The Household cavalry are the only regiment that have never used the term Sergeant, a sergeant is classed as a Corporal of the horse The majority of british regiments use the term Private but some regiments are different. Royal Engineers are Sappers for instance.
Hows Spain ?
Aza, I learnt all I know about the Napoleonic Wars by watching Sharpe. As a special service, I shall force myself to sit through each and every episode in order to find out for you.
It could take some time.
Any room there on the sofa, Kwilter?
Joking aside, I am constantly amazed by the depth of knowledge on this forum!
<scoots along the sofa and passes choccie fingers>
Slugsta, were you around when I posted a thread asking for any suggestions about transcribing a medieval document? Someone popped up who used to teach medieval Latin, and gave me a translation of it.
I think we tend to see ourselves as runners/former runners and not realise the bredth of expertise there is around.
I have the Sharpe box set it is a serious history programme isn't it? <drool>
Day off tomorrow ... I may have to do some <ahem> research after the drudgery of Christmas shopping.
My step Grandad was in the Rifles in the Somme. Luckily for him , he came home with a gunshot wound to his elbow and survived until 1978. I've got his blood spattered map framed and hanging in my hallway.
Now...back to Sean Bean.
A zillion thanks folks, I thought the question might be pushing it a bit but I remember that thread you posted Kwilter, and thought it might be worth a shot. Between the lot of us, there's not a lot we don't know.
I've been working for a couple of months on this Napoleonic text and the bloke who knows most about it tells me that troops were only cavalry. However, English is not his first language, so he might be mistaking it with 'troop'. In the first edition of the Webster dictionary I found this:
It's from 1828 so the dates are right, but it's an American dictionary and I was worried that the usage might have come across the Atlantic with the GI's. However, Corinthian's Duke of Wellington quote would seem to back up usage in Europe too. I hadn't thought of looking up quotes from the main players of the time....
Again - a zillion thanks to everyone.
Nick - Spain is great thanks - I'm not short of work and eternally grateful for it.Kwilter - I haven't heard of Sharpe but from the comments on this thread maybe I should put it on my Christmas list?Corinth - do you think you'll unlearn that nasty American when you come back across the pond?
What a coincidence, Corrie, I just happen to have a vacancy for sex slave/housekeeper, just send me your CV .
Ah, cheers Corinth. I'll ask him where he got his information from and them zap 'im with the quotes.
Ahem 'manoeuvre', shurely?
On a slightly different subject, do ebooks have search functions? I've just thought that if I can get all my 'Vanity Fairs' and 'Daniel Derondas' electronically, it would be seriously handy for checking vocab use for these damn historical texts.
I'll be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century yet...
<hangs Luddite head in shame>
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