Am I being too generous ? Or am I too tight ?

Engineering, the country is short on good engineers, has been ever since apprenticeships, does anyone know a decent professional Engineer who cannot find work? I don't.

Also by professional Engineering I don't mean people who fix fridges or central heating (not to be dismissive) I mean proper Engineering 

Nick Windsor 4 wrote (see)

Engineering, the country is short on good engineers, has been ever since apprenticeships, does anyone know a decent professional Engineer who cannot find work? I don't.

Also by professional Engineering I don't mean people who fix fridges or central heating (not to be dismissive) I mean proper Engineering 

That's a very broad term. What field - mechanical, electrical, software, civil, gentetic... ?

Engineers Explained

Friend of mine is an engineer (oil & gas) although I confess I don't know the specifics. He has to be on site from time to time (Kazahstan,Dubai, Aberdeen), and is on contract (as opposed to staff, moneys better apparently). I'll tell him you can work form home for an extended period and you can get 6 months notice on a contract.

He was out of work for a year 2 or 3 years ago, did painting and decorating for a summer to keep busy. Maybe his area is specialised hence the "does anyone know a decent professional engineer who cannot find work"
or he's not decent
or wouldn't take the salary

K80 wrote (see)

That's a very broad term. What field - mechanical, electrical, software, civil, gentetic... ?

I am qualified in both Mechanical and Electrical engineering to degree level, I also have an MBA. It cost me approx £18k to pay for my qualifications, so please don't make the mistake of calling me lucky. Hard work has been good to me and would be for most people.  

Nick Windsor 4 wrote (see)

K80 wrote (see)

That's a very broad term. What field - mechanical, electrical, software, civil, gentetic... ?

I am qualified in both Mechanical and Electrical engineering to degree level, I also have an MBA. It cost me approx £18k to pay for my qualifications, so please don't make the mistake of calling me lucky. Hard work has been good to me and would be for most people.  

I'm thrilled for you

so what about if you weren't lucky enough to be born with enough genetic intelligence to be able to achieve that level of education........

For someone who works so hard, you seem to spend quite a lot of time farting about on this thread.......shouting about how hard you work, ironically enough.

Nick Windsor 4 wrote (see)

K80 wrote (see)

That's a very broad term. What field - mechanical, electrical, software, civil, gentetic... ?

I am qualified in both Mechanical and Electrical engineering to degree level, I also have an MBA. It cost me approx £18k to pay for my qualifications, so please don't make the mistake of calling me lucky. Hard work has been good to me and would be for most people.  

I didn't.

seren nos wrote (see)

so what about if you weren't lucky enough to be born with enough genetic intelligence to be able to achieve that level of education........

No, it's all just laziness according to Nick.

I will agree though that we need to offer more practical apprenticeships of all kinds - university isn't the answer for a lot of people. 

Nick, it sounds like you have been very lucky.

I'd say you were lucky to be able to afford £18k for an MBA...I'm not saying you didnt work hard to get it

GR I'm not lucky at all I come from a council house background and a poor family, I don't think I'm particularly gifted with anything other than a hard working mentality. I was not lucky to be able to afford my training, I put it out because I was confident I'd pull it back, I paid for it because I didn't smoke or drink. If these are the responses to someone who is basically only hard working, and advocating hard work as a potential cure for the malaise in the country. Then frankly you all need to look at yourselves, we get what we deserve. 

Cheers Nick ... Keep paying the taxes, and the spongers will love you for ever

Too true Dave, and by the time I get to pension age the gravy train will have left

Nick Windsor 4 wrote (see)

Too true Dave, and by the time I get to pension age the gravy train will have left

Reach pension age ?   Doubt you will manage to get to 95 at the rate you will have to work

Ha ha it would be funny if it wasn't about to come true,

Nick Windsor 4 wrote (see)

Ha ha it would be funny if it wasn't about to come true,

It's OK I think it's hilarious

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xine267 wrote (see)

Fair enough, so actually what the government spends your taxes on is irrelevant to your choice not to donate money to charity

 

Well it shoud be - unless you have some strange idea, like Nick does, that it's all somehow going to benefit scroungers and not paying valuable people like nurses, policemen and prison warders.

No, I don't have that idea at all. I find it very odd that people feel the need to justify or whitewash the decision not to give to charity they will trot out the argument "I pay my taxes, so I don't need to"

Fine if they don't want to give money to charity, but why not just say so? No need to act like paying tax is altruistic and paying higher rate tax is the same as donating extra money to charity.

Nick Windsor 4 wrote (see)

GR I'm not lucky at all I come from a council house background and a poor family, I don't think I'm particularly gifted with anything other than a hard working mentality. I was not lucky to be able to afford my training, I put it out because I was confident I'd pull it back, I paid for it because I didn't smoke or drink. If these are the responses to someone who is basically only hard working, and advocating hard work as a potential cure for the malaise in the country. Then frankly you all need to look at yourselves, we get what we deserve. 

Well said Nick. You've worked hard and invested in your education and training, instead of spending the money on drinking and smoking. I can't see why anyone could knock you for that.

Too easy to steer the other way I'm afraid