At Last...! Commonsense is found....

weight based air travel..

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K80
03/04/2013 at 19:42

Stop it KK. talking about your smalls...

Chaps (and chapessses) visualising the differences - it's enough to throw one off course.

03/04/2013 at 19:42

I read somewhere that everything is designed around an average height of 5' 5". Well that's below average for a guy but covers the vast majority of women and children.

When you add up the numbers, once you get to 5' 8" tall you are already finding your feet dangling off the end of the bed. Those well over 6 foot tall find most situations a bit cramped.

Airlines operate to the averages so luckily enabling someone like myself to sprawl out in an economy seat. 22 hours no problem.

03/04/2013 at 19:47

Maybe instead of measuring it on weight, they could do it on BMI to charge the fatties more.

But then you'd have the "muscular" types  saying their BMI is skewed. So there's no easy way.

If you're so fat you take up 2 seats though, what happens then? Apart from the unlucky person next to you being squashed?

K80
03/04/2013 at 19:53
Stevie G . wrote (see)

Maybe instead of measuring it on weight, they could do it on BMI to charge the fatties more.

But then you'd have the "muscular" types  saying their BMI is skewed. So there's no easy way.

If you're so fat you take up 2 seats though, what happens then? Apart from the unlucky person next to you being squashed?

Well then Seren is right. If you are larger and pay more you get a wider seat and don't impose yourself on others..

 

You shouldn't just pay more to get abuse off your neighbour for having the same size seat.

03/04/2013 at 20:30

Do they have wider seats? I've never seen any.  How does paying for 2 seats work, does the person sit on the arm rest in the middle???

03/04/2013 at 20:35
Cinders wrote (see)

Do they have wider seats? I've never seen any.  How does paying for 2 seats work, does the person sit on the arm rest in the middle???

 

They tend to sit with the arm rest lodged up their rectum, and the rest of their mass just fills the other 2 seats, a bit like jelly filling a bowl.

03/04/2013 at 20:54

Ouch!

03/04/2013 at 20:59

Armrests between aircraft seats can often be raised and pushed up between the two seats.

Although you'd sit in one seat, your body would not be being squeezed by the armrest.

Some airlines are already charging obese people for two seats, so that they have an empty one next to them - less for their comfort than so that no-one gets squashed sitting next to them.

I believe someone managed to sue an airline for injuries caused by a very fat person sitting next to, and partially on, them.

Here you go

Edited: 03/04/2013 at 21:03
04/04/2013 at 01:09
Stevie G . wrote (see)

Fat Buddha seems one of the few on here who has pointed out the obvious point. That extra weight doesn't necessarily mean you're some out of control binge slob. You might just be tall, male or muscular.

 

It'd also be a ridiculous thin end of the wedge, would you start charging more for other transport?After all, all transport uses more fuel if there's more weight on board, not just planes.

It's got nothing to do with how fat you are, as RicF has pointed out, every average and above sized man would be penalised, but that's fine, it's a fairer system.

When you send a parcel you pay by weight, to account for fuel, this is no different.

Besides it should also appease the greenies, people might stuff a few less cakes in their mouths before they go on holiday, making the plane lighter, causing less polution.

04/04/2013 at 03:57

i am not a parcel!

04/04/2013 at 08:11

Great plan and on the weight issue if you're big through eating or big through build, it doen't matter, it costs more to get you from A to B so pay up. Fair policy

seren nos    pirate
04/04/2013 at 08:20

isn't there a difference if the big person stays completely mtionless compared to them fidgetting around and walking up and down the plane....

 

it takes less ebnergy to transport something that uis completely still than something moving.....

so maybe they could charge according to how much someone moves...

04/04/2013 at 08:31

Sounds like a plan devised by a retard to be honest. Plus cost wise the cost of implementing it would be offset against any possible gains on income. Cost of weighing customers at check-in. Longer check-in times and staffing costs to add this. Refund/surcharge if weight is not as customer entered on booking.

That and fuel isn't that big a factor in the overall ticket cost. Go look at a breakdown of your last air fare. The primary cost impact is taxation. If the cost = weight * fuel metric was applied you'd be causing all sorts of extra delays and staffing issues for the sake of a few quid!

04/04/2013 at 08:58

After taxation, fuel would be the biggest cost.

So no quite sure where you are going with that argument Eggy.

 

04/04/2013 at 09:20

If theyre going to charge based on weight, next time I fly I'll be asking them to rip out any unfilled seats, get rid of the TV's. Air hostesses; no thanks just do a buffet and who needs 3 people in the cockpit!

04/04/2013 at 09:32

Fuel * weight per passenger would be very minor in the overall ticket cost. Fuel * per passenger cost isn't a huge factor in the cost of a ticket. You'd be introducing a system that requires a massive financial overhead to implement. All it would do is increase ticket costs for all, no matter their weight.

1. A botched online check-in. You'd need to have a "people weight" system similar to baggage drop off system. That would cost in machines to calculate the fees. It would cost in staff to cover the volume of people having to do this. Remember the online check-in and baggage drop system was introduced as much for reducing staff costs at check-in as it is for passenger benefit. You've just increased the ticket price for all.

2. The system would only generate a few pounds at most per person in savings or extra fees if the cost was related to the cost of fuel.

3. The system introduces further passenger queues. Just what air travel needs. Save a fiver, wait an extra 45 minutes in queues!

4. Rebate/fee system. You book a ticket six months in advance and enter your weight. At check-in you weigh more or less. You have to wait and process the fee or rebate as appropriate. Once again lengthening check-in time or increasing staffing costs to get people through in a timely manner.

5. On return you'd need to be weighed again. Maybe you pigged out on your trip, or lost weight after a dose of Delhi belly!

6. It doesn't resolve the issue people here are complaining about of an obese person crushing into them, as it measures weight to cost not size to seat width.

It's a moronic idea with no practical application. The only application this serves is fatty bashing for idiots on the internet.

seren nos    pirate
04/04/2013 at 09:37

and you would get people stripping down to their undies and having an extra wee before weighing

04/04/2013 at 10:41

"It's a moronic idea with no practical application. The only application this serves is fatty bashing for idiots on the internet."

about the most sensible thing that's been said about this whole idea.   there are too many holes in the proposal for it to work but undoubtedly it will be tried and then put to rest.

 

 

 

04/04/2013 at 10:48

Nice bit of publicity for the airline concerned as well.

04/04/2013 at 10:51
fat buddha wrote (see)

"It's a moronic idea with no practical application. The only application this serves is fatty bashing for idiots on the internet."

about the most sensible thing that's been said about this whole idea.   there are too many holes in the proposal for it to work but undoubtedly it will be tried and then put to rest.

 

 

 

I agree (and I weigh about 70% of what I used to!)  Weighing people at airports like jockeys after a race?  Can't see it myself.

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