Celebritiy culture.

What a waste of time.

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29/11/2012 at 12:40

 

Rickster wrote (see)

How about adoring real heroes:- nurses, soldiers, police officers etc..

Are these people "real heroes" or is that just a cliché that we seem to have got used to regurgitating?

People do not, by and large, choose to become Nurses, soldiers or coppers because of some grand altruistic impulse to work for crap pay (well, not in the case of coppers, actually) so that they can help sick people, fight for Queen and country or serve and protect.  People choose these careers for all sorts of reasons.  Ultimately, almost all of them are doing the job that they want to do, not doing it under duress because of some altruistic calling they couldn't fight.

That's not to say that some people do not do heroic things in the line of duty in these jobs and there are definitely people to be really admired who work in these fields.  There's also, somewhere, an investment banker (gulp) who ran into a burning house to rescue their neighbour's baby or pulled a drowning dog out of a frozen lake.  They never got paid a penny for that, it wasn't their job to be heroic.

"Heroes" or in my world, people who I can greatly admire, tend to be individuals and not representative of groups of people.  Some soldiers murder, some nurses are spiteful to their patients and some coppers are bent.

Some people who do wonderful, admirable things in their life might just be TV personalities....

29/11/2012 at 12:41

If people are paid massive amounts for kicking a football around it is because someone somewhere is willing to pay for it, and it must generate a return or they would not pay it.

It's harsh but why pay more for a Nurse when almost everyone is capable of doing the job (although I admit I would choose not to) and people particularly from eastern Europe will do it for the current pay or less.

29/11/2012 at 12:48

it's better than the old days when footballers were paid a pittance and all of the money went to football bosses.

football generates a lot of dosh. if anyone is going to get it, i'd prefer it was the workers.

29/11/2012 at 13:33

Well having just paid £31 for a ticket to watch Derby this Saturday I'd rather it didn't generate so much dosh from me !    I know I don't have to pay it but my daughter has been on at me to take her to another match - luckily under 12s were only £9 - the only is relative.    I suppose it's worth it just to indoctrinate her - the old ways die hard.

29/11/2012 at 15:00

ay caramba. vote with your feet. I follow my local non-league side. fiver in.

 

seren nos yn canu    pirate
29/11/2012 at 16:18

watch even crapper football and watch it for free................

 

I agree that there has always been sopmeone that teenagers will look up to........

as for doctors  nurses etc.you get some good ones and you get some crap onbes.the same as most other jobs.....and if you told them there was no money in the bank to pay them for the next 3 months  ( as what happens in a lot of hospitals in africa )........how many of them would still be there working 3 months down the line.those are the heroes...

29/11/2012 at 17:20

If people find the time to watch X Factor and worships celebs, then it shows just how empty their lives really are.

29/11/2012 at 20:03

not everyone can be as enlightened as you.

it just isn't possible.

30/11/2012 at 08:20
seren nos wrote (see)

watch even crapper football and watch it for free................

 

I agree that there has always been sopmeone that teenagers will look up to........

as for doctors  nurses etc.you get some good ones and you get some crap onbes.the same as most other jobs.....and if you told them there was no money in the bank to pay them for the next 3 months  ( as what happens in a lot of hospitals in africa )........how many of them would still be there working 3 months down the line.those are the heroes...

Too right I wouldnt, I would take advantage of tax payers money and sit at home watching Jeremy Kyle and re runs of Xfactor, 

30/11/2012 at 09:54

I'm feeling rebellious and contrary.  I might start watching X Factor!

Edited: 30/11/2012 at 09:55
30/11/2012 at 10:04
PhilPub wrote (see)

I'm feeling rebellious and contrary.  I might start watching X Factor!

As long as your rebellion doesn't go as far as watching Jeremy Kyle.

30/11/2012 at 10:37
PhilPub wrote (see)

I'm feeling rebellious and contrary.  I might start watching X Factor!

Noo! Start watching Strictly instead and then join us on the thread

30/11/2012 at 10:43
xine267 wrote (see)
 

Noo! Start watching Strictly instead and then join us on the thread

 

Oh, you and your vacuous throw-away culture!  Anyway, I've got a double pianoforte lesson on Saturday evening at the Institute.  This Chopin prelude won't learn itself you know!

30/11/2012 at 10:46


 seren nos wrote (see)

watch even crapper football and watch it for free................

 

Popsider is already watching Derby, you cant get much crapper than that.....

30/11/2012 at 11:06

xine - im avoiding the thread until ive caught up with last saturday! **NO SPOILERS**

Edited: 30/11/2012 at 11:06
30/11/2012 at 16:26

Ahh Phil, you need to start a Chopin Appreciation Thread

Dude, I won't say anything  but catch up quick and come back to us - we miss you!


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