Don't you think we suffer enough being in the North?
Just wondered what you think of the idea of London's councils dumping its poorest and most vulnerable families up North? I don't pretend to understand fully what's going on but I DO know that we have plenty enough problems of our own up here, without taking on other people's, thank you.
30,000 people have just applied for 1,500 jobs at Halewood on Merseyside at the Jaguar/LandRover plant. There really is bugger all out there for us right now and people are desperate.
So why would we need more social deprivation?
I can understand the government''s need to reduce / limit spending on housing benefit.... but any plus points of this policy seem hugely outweighed by the negatives.
As you say, finding homes for people in poorer areas is of no benefit in the long run - Not to the people already living in those areas struggling to find jobs, nor to the people frced to migrate to those areas who face competition for fewer jobs.
In the long run, that puts and even bigger burden on the overall benefit spend - But of course Newham Council can balance their own books.
Furthermore, why should people be forced to move a hundred or so miles to a different area, thus losing any family and community networks they already have; this surely can only have a negative impact on the community they're moved to, however indirect.
Perhaps Newham council (and presumably others) should look further into regulating for fair rent schemes for social housing.
I did wonder if anybody had bothered asking these people if they wanted to move to Stoke on Trent....
I've never met a Londoner who has any idea where it is. In fact I was asked where Liverpool was this weekend.
It wouldn't be the first time London had dispersed it's problems. there are some estates that were built in the early 50s that are still known as London Overspill. Even though i suspect you'd be hard pressed to find a (genuine) Londoner still in them.
Over the years squillions of people have moved to London from eslewhere in the UK - usually seeking jobs.
No-one asked Londoners if they wanted them.
Would it be OK if we repatriate the northerners?
Oh, and I know where Liverpool is - I've even BEEN there
Tricky one because I agree that exporting to another area of the country is not right....but we all make decisions about our housing etc based on personal finances and it sometimes means moving away to get work, affordable housing etc Loads of people do it. I'm not sure why one group should be ring fenced and protected from that harsh reality of life?
I remember reading on another forum, someone moaning about lack of jobs in a deprived area of ? Wales and one answer that came back was to up house and move to London to get a job...
I would have thought this was one possible impact of the benefits cap.
The other being that people would have to cut their cloth and move to smaller homes. If you were in a job and lost your job or had to take a lower paid one then you would probably - if you had some nuts - recognise that you might have to move to a smaller property or one in a cheaper area.
But people on large benefits are expected to be propped up in their choice of living accommodation whatever the cost?
Many of us could never dream of living in London because of the cost - even though we might earn more than the national average. Why should people on benefits be any different?
ps: there was 5 of us in a two up two down in Salford. And we were lucky.
I live in a poorer area than the one I grew up in. No way could I afford to live there even in a cardboard box. I had to move to be able to afford a roof over my head.
Why should someone living on benefits have a better home than me simply because they are on benefits?My friend has a large 4 bed house, I can't afford that but she's on benefits so doesn't have to worry about that.
What's the difference between us? She slept around, got pregnant, left her job - (we worked together,) became homeless quite deliberately, and has since lived off the state.
For people like this who have to move, Sympathy - zero.
just been talking to D. He was listening to radio 4 - private landlord says he's evicting his tennents as he can charge upwards og £2,000 a week due to Olympics and Queens Jubilee.
Yes well this is some of the issue. Rents are higher in London and the government cuts make them untenable so the Council is sending people to cheaper areas.
However it doesn't work for anybody. The other areas don't want Londoners thrust on them. Most ofthe Londoners don't want to leave. Presumably Cameron has dusted off Norman Tebbit's bike and told people to move
Life doesn't work on that basis. I don't 'want' to live where I do. I'd rather live where I used to. I have to live where I can afford to live. The locals here don't like people moving in putting up hiusing prices for them and theirs.
No one wants anyone.
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