Dear overweight UK

We are becoming obese as a nation and I realise that the generalisation doesn't touch the individual. I also realise that there is a whole hell hole of denial out there and telling people that they are fat runs against the pc nation that we've become. Ok, you're not obese and playing God with your health... you have 'issues'.

I'm not making overweight and dealing with it very badly psychologically, worse than some of the other problems other people are dealing with, I'm just saying that we all need to look at ourselves and be honest, rather than playing the victim card. Doesn't criticism as an adult inspire you to fight your personal demons? It does me.

I *might* be drunk, a tiny bit...

And I'm deep frying eggs, in 41 ywears never dont that before, but they'e fasb!

Zhoung Wee wrote (see)

Is overweight such a problem?

Alcoholism is worse. For the individual, earlier death. For society, lost productivity, drunk driving, etc.

As confuscious say: sort yourself out luv

What a twat you are, did you not read the history about me losing my Dad to a drunk driver at the age of 5??

The question about why we have an instinct to pick on fatties has its origins back in pre history. As hunter gatherers, the ability to move over great distances at one level and very quickly on another was paramount to hunting success. Being over weight meant you were no use on the hunt. As well as that, another problem was the one of survival especially in times of famine. The way to survive was to be really fat. So not only were fatties useless at hunting, bringing in no food but they also had the audacity to survive famine while the contributors died. So give em a hard time, its traditional.

I think I need to retire... whilst I can still type withnon eye...perfect people"...c'mon I obvioussly have tried hard with this,,

Tis ok,I'm not catholic but will feel catholic guiet in comparison on the forun, cos thst's how it rollc.

I'm actually enjoying this 'more drunk that I actually am' persona.

Zhoung Wee wrote (see)

Like you say "hell hole of denial"

I'm cool, I'm eating tiny sausages right now.. Who knew that you could do them so small?

RicF - actually in the poorest societies fat is still seen as a sign of wealth and privilege - in parts of Africa young women are still sent to fattening huts to make them more desirable marriage prospects.  After all in the hunter gatherer society only the men were doing the running, the women were reproducing and caring for the children so a bit of podge was a huge evolutionary advantage.  It is rather more that the paradox of wealthy society that fatness is now seen as a negative attribute.

There is a difference to being a little bit overweight, or even being a healthy weight and being obese.

When weight effects health, mobility etc. Then you are in serious trouble.

That new programme - secret eaters, shows how most of us think about what we eat. How many times have we seen on here threads started by people who say they hardly eat a thing yet can't shift the weight.

For a few weeks I counted the calories of everything I ate and was shocked by how easy it was to exceed the daily allowance. I want to eat my 5 - 10 portions of fruit and veg each day, plus have the right amount of protein and fat in my diet. By trying to do this I exceed my daily allowance of kcals easily.

Luckily I'm not sedentry but reasonably active. I work with people who eat tons and spend the day sat watching TV. Though they don't moan about being fat anything like as much as I do.

Probably because they don't care. Massively overweight people just smack of lazyness, lack of will power and no self discipline.

Wetter is Better! wrote (see)

Probably because they don't care. Massively overweight people just smack of lazyness, lack of will power and no self discipline.

Sometimes.  But sometimes there are other causes.  Low self esteem possibly caused by abuse in the past, depression which can cause some people to over eat, a basic lack of understanding of how to cook, or what foods are nutitionally poor.

I'm never going to be slim because of my build, but I have had both high and low body fat percentages in the past.  The periods where I was larger coincide with issues in my past, where I was coming to terms with stuff and suffering from depression.  My self confidence, self esteem and self worth were rock bottom.  The periods when I have been smaller coincide with times when I have felt positive about myself and have been happy.

I know that I am in control of what I eat, and what is good for me, but I love good food and have to work constantly to keep my weight stable.  It's not laziness, will power of disipline that I lack, but the inability to keep my eye on my nutrition when there are so many other things in my life going wrong.  Just like some people might take a break from running training when life gets in the way, sometimes I have to take a break from watching my diet.

What I am getting at, is that there are lots of causes of obesity and you can't lump everyone together in the same category.

"playing the victim card"

Pot kettle/wine bottle black

Hippo Crit wrote (see)

"playing the victim card"

Pot kettle/wine bottle black

 

You made up an anonymous new persona just to say that? *rolls eyes*

Bear B.Hind wrote (see)

RicF - actually in the poorest societies fat is still seen as a sign of wealth and privilege - in parts of Africa young women are still sent to fattening huts to make them more desirable marriage prospects.  After all in the hunter gatherer society only the men were doing the running, the women were reproducing and caring for the children so a bit of podge was a huge evolutionary advantage.  It is rather more that the paradox of wealthy society that fatness is now seen as a negative attribute.

I wonder why culturally, slim beyone actually looking good is prized?

You want me to continue?

From FB:

"And yet, when I post on the forum that losing weight could possibly improve athletic performance, I'm accused of bullying. I've lost my cool with people making it personal, it never was.!"

Did the person ask for your opinion on a thread they started just about how to improve their performance? No. 

You are playing the victim card here KK. Stop feeling sorry for yourself.

Hippo Crit 2 wrote (see)

You want me to continue?

From FB:

"And yet, when I post on the forum that losing weight could possibly improve athletic performance, I'm accused of bullying. I've lost my cool with people making it personal, it never was.!"

Did the person ask for your opinion on a thread they started just about how to improve their performance? No. 

You are playing the victim card here KK. Stop feeling sorry for yourself.

 

Post in your normal account you spineless coward. Who are you?

But weight does effect athletic performance. If I could lose weight then I could run faster and be able to hurdle and do high jump.

If someone on here asks how they might improve performance then training, weight and nutrition / hydration all come into play. OK, training will probably have this biggest impact but weight plays it's part in no small measure.

I see people puffing and panting just walking because they are carrying around so much extra that they don't need. If we can see the effects of obeseity on the individual then surely there are hidden effects of excess weight on those of us that think we are fit but are carrying around to much.