I often do, but I won't pay a pre loaded tip.
We had lunch in that London yesterday, and it was very good. Apart from the waitress being a little surly, and taking our meal to the wrong table.
When the bill came it had a £7.80 service charge included. I asked the waitress to take it off and she said she would have to ask her manager. She duly came back with a fresh bill, and asked if what was my problem with the service. I explained that I often leave a tip, but I didn't like the way they'd added it to my bill without asking.
If someone goes out of their way to make you feel welcome and enjoy your meal, then they deserve a tip, but for restaurants to add it on is just a racket surely?
Strictly speaking, if it's added to the bill, or if the company collects all the tips and shares them out amongst the staff, the company has to treat it as income and include it in their profits (and so pay tax on it). A lot of companies then use this to subsidise their wage bill, so in effect none of it goes to the waiting/kitchen staff as an extra.
I tip in cash, and I'm quite happy if there's a sharing system whereby the other waiting staff/kitchen staff get a share.
You have to do an exceptional job for me to tip, and i've worked in bars and been a waitress so i know what it's like.I always take off the extra on the bill. I don't see why people expect to get it just because they work in certain industries and i certainly won't tip surly staff no way no how, however if i get brilliant service then i'll often go above 10%, not loads but you know if people have made my experience better then i'm happy to show my appreciation.
Grinds my gears when it's expected and I'll quite happily tell managers/staff themselves why i'm not including a tip.
Generally I do tip. I don't like the auto tip thing though for the same reasons everyone has said. If I'm paying by card, I ask the waiting staff if they get it and if they don't, I don't add it to the card.
I don't quite understand the 10% thing either. I usually go for that but what if you had an expensive bottle of wine, rather than house. Is there any more service involved in opening that and serving it than there is a bottle of water?
I went to a bar in central London once that added a service to charge to drinks at the bar! That was taking the piss.
I don't tip as a rule, however if I am paying cash then I will often round it up to the nearest pound, or maybe the nearest fiver because once I have decided that I want to go then I don't want to hang around waiting to pay.
But I will tip good service or if the waitress was particualrly friendly.
I used to work in a cafe and all the tips were put in a pot and divided up at Christmas based on the number of hours you had worked. The most I got was £25, so hardly worth it. I resented that as I worked hard and was the one that most of the tips were given to, but I had to share it with the slackers.
I always tip but I hate cover charges and service charges.
In Russia and Brazil they frequently scrawl "+10%" on the bottom of the bill to chisel a few roubles more out of Johnny Westerner in the hope he's on exes and won't mind paying.
A colleague I was with kicked off every time they did...
We were in Greece last week, and I tipped my head off, all the waiters said that the tips were shared out among everyone, including the Chefs so I was happy to do it.
And we usually leave a tip for the cleaner in the room if we've been messy.
I always tip in restaurants (unless the service is really bad) around 10% but when I am occasionally on expenses from work then I tend to become a lot more generous than normal!
The one thing about tipping that drives me insane though, is when you arrive at a hotel and someone insists on carrying your bag for you whether you want them to or not and then expects a tip. Or worse still they show you around your room and expect a tip – “Yes, I know how to open curtains and turn on the TV, and the room is not that big I'm sure I'll find everything in it soon enough."
I'll tip if I'm happy with the service and will normally round it up to the next whole £10, then do a quick calculation of the percentage and if its a bit on the low side chuck another couple of quid down. If however the service has been poor then I pay to the penny and I mean the penny.
20% in America now??? Blimey, better take some more money with me.
20% tip in america? You have to do that? What if you don't?
I see you lot are obviously all plush with cash! Going out to the type of fancy places where a tip is expected! The types of places I'd go for a drink or food certainly would look odd tipping!
I had the annoyance once of being in a group of people at some restaurant, we all covered the birthday girl's fee which was fair enough.
Then when one girl decided that we'd divide the bill equally (despite them eating like horses, and having booze and me eating lightly), AND then round the amount up to give a generous tip.
Well that was beyond too much
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