Do You Trust Your MP's?

Do you trust the Government?

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10/04/2014 at 15:52
Peter Collins wrote (see)

As I understand it, about a third of current MPs went to 'independent' schools. Seven per cent of the school population is currently educated privately. More than 50 per cent of Tory MPs went to private school; about 15 per cent of Labour MPs; and 40 per cent of LibDems. I think it does tell you something, though what that is probably depends upon your existing political outlook.


Possibly that a traditional Tory voter wants the best for their children and are prepared to go to any lengths to give them the best start.

 

I still don't see why a good school and a good university should be such a stain ? Unless of course you didn't go to a good school and good university and are jealous ?

10/04/2014 at 15:57

I think you've proved my point - it's all about your political and social views. To me it shows an absolutely reprehensible lack of representation of large swathes of the population, but what do I know?

10/04/2014 at 16:00

I think giving our kids the best start in life was what mattered...

How they decide to vote is up to them 

10/04/2014 at 16:06

Of course, that's assuming that going private is better than the state system. My considered opinion is that it's not. That people from private schools get better jobs is, to my mind, a condemnation of our social and political system, not an argument in favour of private schools. Anyway, it's clear that people who go to public schools and Oxbridge have way too much influence on Westminster. Just my view.

10/04/2014 at 16:15

Well if you can't get into Westminster if you go to state school sort of proves the benefit of a good education

Although already pointed out my MP went to secondary modern and a poly 

10/04/2014 at 16:25

Quote thing -  "On the subject of chemists Dave, they're brilliant at everything, FACT"

Charlie Spedding was a chemist so that is fact -

Do I trust politicians - no - (I have to confess my son put the cross at the last local election - the only stipulation was he didn't choose the BNP guy as he wants to send his (Indian) Uncle home - he ended up voting for the guy he knew who drove the school mini bus - Probably the right choice

10/04/2014 at 17:46
Charile Spedding is a pharmacist, which is very different to a chemist.
10/04/2014 at 22:40
kittenkat wrote (see)

I'm fancying a Blue Tizer Nun cocktail. Anyone?

Red hued nuns doing a bit of blue?  I'm in!  

11/04/2014 at 02:33

What's the best start in life for kids then, the conventional private education? 

Where's the pay off?

 

11/04/2014 at 08:18
RicF wrote (see)

What's the best start in life for kids then, the conventional private education? 

Where's the pay off?

 

They get into Westminster, and then lower your taxes, so you can help fund the grandkids through private education ?

11/04/2014 at 18:27

Just checked the cost of a private education, around £250,000. About the price of the average house in the UK.

So while people are patting themselves on the back for 'helping' their Giles and Jessica's with the best education money can buy, at the end of it they're still stuck with the same qualification as some kid from a local comprehensive.

Want to give your kids the best start in life. Save the (private education) money instead and use it to buy them a house outright.

 

 

11/04/2014 at 19:12
An analogy to your argument Ric is give a man a fish, you feed him for a night, teach a man to fish, you feed him for life.

250k is the cost of a Harrow or an Eton, 30-40k a year for 6 years. King Edwards in Brum is 11k a year. A grade A from Harrow is the same as a grade A from Shitsville Comp in theory, but when I'm interviewing somebody, I'm not just looking at the exam grades, I'm looking at the person as a whole.
11/04/2014 at 20:03
But of course with A levels from Eton, followed by a 1st from Cambridge earns more than shitsville comp usually
11/04/2014 at 20:57

GK,  you appear to have revealed that you're going to discriminate against any candidate that doesn't match your own personal identity.

Just realised what you meant about fish and the like. In simple terms you're saying if you spend the money on an education, the kid will have the tools to earn the money to buy a house. Conversely, if you simply give the kid a house with the money, then that's his lot. 

One big elephant in the room. You're making the assumption that going to a comprehensive will result in 'no qualification'.

The link between education and earning capacity is tenuous at best. It's one of the great perpetuated myths that keeps the system going. Still, its a system that provides employment and purpose for thousands of people so let the fantasy continue.

For what its worth, my lad has an offer from Bath University to study engineering. Predicted grades 'A' & 2'A*'s. Maths & Physics.inc

From the nearest comprehensive to where we live.

He'll get the house too.

Edited: 11/04/2014 at 21:57
11/04/2014 at 21:35
I've not revealed anything about discriminating against anybody. I resent that implication and frankly I don't know how the fuck you've deduced it. What I did say was that there is more to a person than exam results and what school they went to. For the record, I went to the local comp and an ok University.

In general, as Dave says, in general people with better qualifications will earn more. Wayne Rooney and Richard Branson may be exceptions, but I'd wager not too many FTSE CEOs don't have a good education or an exceptional ability to learn.
11/04/2014 at 22:01
Our kids can work for their own houses
11/04/2014 at 22:03

Easy to deduce GK. You have knowledge of the cost of various private educational institutions and also refer to a comprehensive as Shitsville.

The ambiguity of your next paragraph gives the impression you favour the 'body' from Harrow.


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