Dont you hate when you smash your PB and the photographer misses you ...

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30/04/2013 at 10:33
Dave The Ex- Spartan wrote (see)

 On the Eurosport coverage of this years Paris marathon some twat at the start runs straight into the fixed camera alongside the start line as he is looking down messing around with his watch.....

Yeah, I saw that but I don't think it was a fixed camera.  After the collision, the cameraman moved over to the side a bit.  I thought it was a bit odd having all that media right in the middle of the road very close to the start.  Even the elites had to run around the media a bit.  

Off topic, but what was even stranger was that well into the race in Paris there was a lady out for her Sunday morning run, trotting along the racing line and then getting swamped by the elites!

30/04/2013 at 11:05

aww man i wanna see that eurosport clip, i cant find anything on google.

30/04/2013 at 11:06
Millsy1977 wrote (see)

Great detective work. You need a new career. 

One too many e's in that last word.

Just catching up with this thread.  At first, on the surface, it looked like this pair was probably guilty. But DF3's argument has since been destroyed.

It's very likely that the woman never ran.  And very very very likely that the whole problem is associated with a faulty system  - as many many people with consecutive numbers / same surnames have been allocated identical times throughout... and some people who never ran have reportedly been given times.

It's obvious, and DF3 is just on the wind-up in not accepting it. 

There is a big danger in identifying individuals, and implying they have cheated... so often you don't have all the facts to hand.

The woman involved has had her name blackened...  shit sticks, and not everyone will have read the evidence that indicates that she's totally blameless.  It's bullying. It's pathetic.

 

30/04/2013 at 11:09

On a separate track - has this chip problem been reported to the organisers?

30/04/2013 at 11:10

What's more, the clearest arguments for defending this poor woman have been put forward by Seren, who is then informed she needs to get laid. Charming.

30/04/2013 at 11:11

I like the idea that a steward at the London Marathon quoting UKA rules!! I am sure that a lot goes on if you care to look at it that are against all sorts of rules - but don't get picked up. I am sure that taking drinks or refreshments from people other than at drinks stations is counted as outside assistance but it goes on -   

30/04/2013 at 11:13

Here is the guy running into the camera at Paris at about 22sec.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O0GZMnIO0k&feature=youtu.be

30/04/2013 at 11:16
Big_G wrote (see)

Here is the guy running into the camera at Paris at about 22sec.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O0GZMnIO0k&feature=youtu.be

Ha!!  Is that Alan Partridge on commentary?  "Can you believe that, the guy's just nutted the camera!"

30/04/2013 at 11:26
David Falconer 3 wrote (see)

 

You were singing a different tune on this thread.

http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/forum/clubhouse/should-results-be-limited-to-participants/248736.html

 

Just because I defended one specific aspect of something you said... in the face of someone being ultra aggressive...   don't read that as meaning I'm supportive of everything you ever say about any subject.

Psychiatic specialists have a word for that sort of behaviour.

30/04/2013 at 11:47

OK well I'm sure this problem has already been raised with the organisers as people's watches must be telling them vastly different stories to their official times but I have reported it again anyway.

An entire marathon field with the wrong chip timings happens to be more important than a lot of idle speculation, bitching and finger-pointing. 

As runners we should realise that. If we don't, we shouldn't be here.

 

30/04/2013 at 11:51

I agree with Phil pub andseren.

The poor woman andhusbands. Do they even know you are all attacking their honesty?

What do we know about what they have done to contact the organisers to put it rights.

I ran the Morton morrel 20k last November. When the results were emailed round later that day, they had me at coming in first. Whilst I was totally excited about being the first woman home. I actually pulled out half way through so my super time of1 hour5 minutes was not accurate. I was super embarrassed as this was a small serious race with runners looking like they would mightily pissed off if they didn't get their (well deserved) prize of first place. I emailed the organisers and my time was taken off. So who knows, maybe this woman has done the same thing? 

30/04/2013 at 11:52
Big_G wrote (see)

Here is the guy running into the camera at Paris at about 22sec.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O0GZMnIO0k&feature=youtu.be

That did make me laugh - but it did seem that the cameraman/woman was standing in a daft place!

30/04/2013 at 11:53
Screamapillar wrote (see)

OK well I'm sure this problem has already been raised with the organisers as people's watches must be telling them vastly different stories to their official times but I have reported it again anyway.

An entire marathon field with the wrong chip timings happens to be more important than a lot of idle speculation, bitching and finger-pointing. 

As runners we should realise that. If we don't, we shouldn't be here.

 

 

There is a statement on the Manchester Marathon facebook page acknowledging there has been technical issues with the timings and results

http://www.facebook.com/Gtrmanchestermarathon

 

30/04/2013 at 11:53

It was Paris Wilkie.....  So very different to VLM...

It was a marathon full of people running, No silly costumes, No people with buckets trying to collect money, No one walking within 5 minutes of the start....

It was almost a race rather than an overgrown R4L

30/04/2013 at 12:10

That's good news Gertie.

David, I suggest you find something better to do with your time. If you keep posting threads like this but not contacting the race organisers with your concerns I will get them cazzed.

You can't keep making allegations against people who have no means of reply whilst hiding behind a keyboard. 

 

30/04/2013 at 12:12
Screamapillar wrote (see)

 

You can't keep making allegations against people

 

I'm not sure he has made allegations, Just comments on data that is in the public domain

Edited: 30/04/2013 at 12:13
30/04/2013 at 12:17

I notice from page one of this thread
"it is universal knowledge that the manchester marathon timings and cghips are all fucked up......"
well I must have inhabited a different universe, because I knew nothing about this at all, yet my club had two runners in it. (I've checked, their times look valid)

Screamy - do you make a point of getting threads cazzed because you don't like them or the issues they highlight? Granted DF struggles to do it in a subtle way but I for one would rather gross errors (where the data exists in the public domain) are highlighted.

30/04/2013 at 12:25

 

Dustin wrote (see)

I notice from page one of this thread
"it is universal knowledge that the manchester marathon timings and cghips are all fucked up......"
well I must have inhabited a different universe, because I knew nothing about this at all, yet my club had two runners in it. (I've checked, their times look valid)

Screamy - do you make a point of getting threads cazzed because you don't like them or the issues they highlight? Granted DF struggles to do it in a subtle way but I for one would rather gross errors (where the data exists in the public domain) are highlighted.


Dustin you miss the point entirely - it's about speculating and making comments about people who have no right of reply.

I have no problem with the issue raised (I have reported a cheat myself). But if you find an anomaly the right thing to do is report it, not come on RW and invite other people to speculate on it, especially if you are too much of a coward to report them.

David tries to persuade us it's because he "doesn't really care" but the real reason is obvious.

Sh*t stirring among forumites is one thing, involving total strangers is another.

How would you like it if you found out a bunch of  people you didn't know was discussing you somewhere?

Edited: 30/04/2013 at 12:30
30/04/2013 at 12:32

Like Dustin, I had no idea there was an issue with the timings until I read it on here.

I don't see why the thread should be cazzed.  There were and are issues, why shouldn't they be talked about?

DF3 hasn't actually accused anyone of cheating, just drawn attention to an issue.  Other people have drawn their own conclusions.

People who don't like his threads can always not read them - but I guess that's not nearly as much fun as working up a lather about how outrageous it all is.

 

30/04/2013 at 12:36
Wilkie wrote (see)

Like Dustin, I had no idea there was an issue with the timings until I read it on here.

I don't see why the thread should be cazzed.  There were and are issues, why shouldn't they be talked about?

DF3 hasn't actually accused anyone of cheating, just drawn attention to an issue.  Other people have drawn their own conclusions.

People who don't like his threads can always not read them - but I guess that's not nearly as much fun as working up a lather about how outrageous it all is.

 

If you don't get why discussing a pair of perfect stranger's times on a public forum is wrong then you just don't get it.

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