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Reincarnation

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03/12/2012 at 13:36

I want to be reincarnated as a cat.

Or a rabbit - for obvious reasons...

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03/12/2012 at 13:38

i would also come back as a cat.eat and sleep all day.perfect

03/12/2012 at 13:48

How many times can you be reincarnated ? For example, could Nick Windsor have been King Herrod, Nick Windsor and then a cat the next time ?

03/12/2012 at 13:52

carterusm wrote (see)

How many times can you be reincarnated ? For example, could Nick Windsor have been King Herrod, Nick Windsor and then a cat the next time ?

And does your soul get put in storage in between the interesting incarnations?

03/12/2012 at 14:36

I am just a hamster on the wheel of life

03/12/2012 at 14:54

I was Alexander The Great's chief eunuch.

03/12/2012 at 14:56

If in your previous life you left debts, could the bailiffs come after you in you current life?

03/12/2012 at 15:02
Screamapillar wrote (see)

I want to be reincarnated as a cat.

Or a rabbit - for obvious reasons...

You fancy having long ears?

03/12/2012 at 15:14
Strangely Brown wrote (see)
Screamapillar wrote (see)

I want to be reincarnated as a cat.

Or a rabbit - for obvious reasons...

You fancy having long ears?

I like carrots... 

03/12/2012 at 15:28
Tom77 wrote (see)

I was Alexander The Great's chief eunuch.

Does that mean you were Arnold Judas Rimmer in a previous incarnation too? 

03/12/2012 at 15:28

Good point, nobody ever seems to have been reincarnated from a nobody

03/12/2012 at 15:42

Where are all these extra lives comming from? With an ever increasing population, which germs now consider themselves human?

03/12/2012 at 15:54
Mr Puffy wrote (see)
It's not taboo at all, and since you've brought it up I think it's utter utter bollocks? What does your son think?

I agree, it is utter rubbish.

03/12/2012 at 16:12
T.mouse wrote (see)

Where are all these extra lives comming from? With an ever increasing population, which germs now consider themselves human?

This could take some time.

04/12/2012 at 20:52

To me its all common sense and backs up the evolution theory.

I think the problem is that human mind is limited, in a sense that we try to rationalise everything. The universe in its entire existence, as well as what the spirit world is, are way beyond our comprehension. 

Thats where a belief comes in. What we can't explain or prove with science, we have to either believe in it, or reject it. Fill in the gaps the way it suits us, our individual situations.

What if the only purpose of human species is to never understand/know/comprehend how it all works? What if we are just to move forward, hungry for the truth, seek for explanations for afterlife, that we are never to find?

Edited: 04/12/2012 at 20:53
04/12/2012 at 21:09

hope i dont have to come back as anyone....it will be nice to be able to have a rest.

04/12/2012 at 21:16

if you lived to an old age why would anyone want start all over again?

04/12/2012 at 21:21

 why are we here in the first place?

04/12/2012 at 21:22

To eat sausages and drink beer. What else?

05/12/2012 at 08:59
Fitness Freak! wrote (see)

OK all my good running friends here. I know this is a taboo subject with a lot of people but do you believe in reincarnation - the ability of the spirit to leave a dead physical body & move into a new live one?

I genuinely believe my 18 year old son, here in England,  was my son is Middle Ages Szczecin.

 

There's two mainstream religious points of view, there's the Buddhist rebirth (not reincarnation), and there's the Hindu reincarnation.

The difference between the two are that rebirth is that it's merely our consciousness that gets reborn, but with reincarnation it's our egoic personality (minus the memories) that gets reborn.

I've studied the Buddhist rebirth, and they have a clever philosophy which goes like this:

1.  The doctrine of Dependant Arising says that a result must be similar to a cause.  If, for example, you plant an apple seed, you will get an apple tree, not an orange tree.  The result (the apple tree), is similar to the cause (the apple seed).

2.  The qualities of consciousness are 'clear and knowing' (if you meditate and things eventually settle down in your head, you will experience clarity and awareness, without the noise of that voice in our heads).  So, they posit, consciousness cannot be produced purely by the brain which is material form. Material form cannot produce consciousness because the cause (the brain - i.e. material form), is not like the result, 'clear and knowing' (consciousness).

3.  The producer of consciousness is a prior moment of consciousness, therefore consciousness must go back in time forever (they do not have a 'first cause' in Buddhism; some things they realise, we will never understand, and to try to do so will produce further confusion and suffering).  In other religions a God is the first cause, but Buddhism asks, "Well, who created God then?".

But consciousness is not our egoic personality.  Our personalities are just a bunch of different thoughts that change all the time, there is no 'core essence' (or a soul) of us to be reincarnated; so I'm more inclined to go along with Buddhist thought than Hindu thought.

However, I believe that once I die, I will just be dead.

I've also had a look to see what neuroscience says about consciousness and the diversity of thought amongst those people is just about as diverse as what the religious people say.

It's an interesting subject though.

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