If we all lived within our means and said no to debt..

surely it is a good thing

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06/05/2011 at 13:29

JW - I could back 'em up and do sometimes a lot of times can't be arsed really. From a sociological perspective there is general patterns and  observations. Society is very complexed as you well know and social facts are not hard cold facts like those  that exist in the physical world as you probably  know.

I am influenced by Marx on how ideology works  but would not consider myself a Marxist. He did under-estimate it's power and could not have predicted today's media. Communism, however never worked for a lot of reasons , some that Marx would have said "told you so" others because communism didn't develop out of the collapse of Capitalism. Now Capitalism is global but still its nature remains self destructive. We need something different altogether IMHO and I would prefer we set it up sooner rather than later as later would mean a lot of suffering and wars over oil and stuff

Edited: 06/05/2011 at 13:35
06/05/2011 at 13:31

"Ad men" somehow manange to sell stuff even when they tell you up front that their advert is lying ("lashes enchanced in post-production" anyone?)

I shudder to think what that says about their target market.

Edited: 06/05/2011 at 13:32
06/05/2011 at 13:36
06/05/2011 at 13:49

Many ads are lies and many financial products are flim-flam.

Its not just about "being strong and resisting" the hype; it's also about expecting commercial organisations to display at least a rudimentary level of ethical behavour, and if they don't, govts should force them to.

06/05/2011 at 13:54
they are generally flim flam JB. I certainly dont expect commercial organisations  to act ethically and if they claim to I give them a critical eye. They are in business to increase profit and that gets in the way of any sense of fair play. We set up regulators but they are either with the corps or in a game of dodge against  them-lol
Edited: 06/05/2011 at 13:55
06/05/2011 at 14:00

I would add further comment but it may lead to me being labelled a Nazi for the first time ever.  And for what it's worth, I don't think the Nazis were all that big on individualism and capitalism. They were more into resocialising...

06/05/2011 at 14:01
STU - wrote (see)
. We set up regulators but they are either with the corps

So now you are accusing the Advertising Standards Agency of corruption ?

I do wish I was as white as you are

06/05/2011 at 14:04
Stu - do you really laugh out loud at your computer screen half as much as you suggest?
06/05/2011 at 14:05

that is very true SVT - what I objected to was the implication that certain groups should be targeted and left to rot if they didn't  work for the system or simply could not afford to live in it. (just short of gas chambers IMHO) That is neo Nazi to me. As I have said "some views".  Crude individualism is another thing I object to but that aint much to do with nazism.

yes I do -I find it pretty funny at times -truly

Edited: 06/05/2011 at 14:06
kittenkat    pirate
06/05/2011 at 14:06
SoVeryTired wrote (see)
Stu - do you really laugh out loud at your computer screen half as much as you suggest?
sqgqtms  ... Damn, I've forgotten what it is!
06/05/2011 at 14:08

SQTMS, I think.

Or, its more recent and more explosive follow-up, STOOMNOKL.

06/05/2011 at 14:09
kittenkat wrote (see)
sqgqtms  ... Damn, I've forgotten what it is!

what does that mean -new to me
kittenkat    pirate
06/05/2011 at 14:10

Yes SQTMS, now it's going to take me ages to work out STOOMNOKL!

Spat Tea Out On My New Orange Kia Lino.

Got it!

06/05/2011 at 14:14
I can learn summat from  clubhouse after all
06/05/2011 at 14:14
I think I was abbreviating Jj - squirting tea out of my nose over keyboard laughing
Lee the Pea    pirate
06/05/2011 at 14:15

SQTMS = Sub-Quality Thread Material Stu?


06/05/2011 at 14:18
SQTMS - smiling quietly to myself - the more truthful version of lol in most cases.
kittenkat    pirate
06/05/2011 at 14:19

How about this one....


kittenkat    pirate
06/05/2011 at 14:19
Peed My Pants A Little, Forgot My Pelvic Floor.
Lee the Pea    pirate
06/05/2011 at 14:21
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