Is nobody talking about Lance Armstrong?

I wonder if the guy was aware of what we call consequences?

What's that saying? "sport doesn't form character, it reveals character".

Credibility, Integity. Not a lot of evidence of that.

Never was a case of  "Winning is the only thing that matters" better illustrated.

There are some good articles in The Onion:

Haven't We All Done Steroids, In A Way?

Lance Armstrong: Cyclist, Survivor, Liar, Hero

Screamapillar wrote (see)

I think most people are past caring about the bloke.

I saw the interview with the guy talking about the blood transfusions and just couldn't believe that it became a normal thing for these guys to do - I mean surely at some point you stop and ask yourself what the f*ck you are doing?

there's a bit of an unlikely parallel to the jimmy saville business. people get away with something for so long they form a different reality/belief system in their minds to the rest of us.

i think deep down he doesn't think there's anything wrong in what he did (armstrong, not saville). maybe that's true. maybe not. i don't know. but it shows a remarkable depth of confidence/arrogance and mental strength/narcissism.

fat buddha wrote (see)

LouiseG wrote (see)

It's the jealous Europeans that couldn't bear an American winning the TdF apparently.

 

errrm - he wasn't the 1st Yank to win the TdF - Greg Lemond won it in '86, 89 and '90

 

Yes - not saying its logical or accurate, just that it's one of the responses I've seen a few times.

the dude abides wrote (see)

i think deep down he doesn't think there's anything wrong in what he did (armstrong, not saville). maybe that's true. maybe not. i don't know. but it shows a remarkable depth of confidence/arrogance and mental strength/narcissism.

I agree - narcissistic and sociopathic, possibly

part of LA's problem is that he has dug himself so deep into his shit that he's finding it difficult to see a way out of the mess he has created.

his arrogance has led him to this point - his arrogance will stop him completely and utterley fessing up and apologising to those that need apologising to; paying back those he sued and won damages from; fingering McQuaid and those liars at the UCI etc

this interview is just the first stage of his "defence" - there will be a lot lot more to come yet.

Technically, is it possible to describe this thread as an exercise in 'Character Assassination'?

RicF wrote (see)

Technically, is it possible to describe this thread as an exercise in 'Character Assassination'?

Yes

Does he have character?

He has offered to join the whisteblower suit (!), which has been declined, and to testify against UCI

Anyone know if he's going to face charges of perjury? I've read a few articles that say it's possible, and others that say it was too long ago to bring charges.

Apparently statute of limitations will cover his 2005 perjury, hence the timing of his 'apology'.  It's the civil suits that will have the most impact.  The whistleblower fraud suit against the UPS team is the one with the biggest potential financial impact, as far as I can gather.

Wilkie wrote (see)

Does he have character?

Heh heh!

You got it!

Quite up to date

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RicF wrote (see)

The difficulty dealing with the subject 'Armstrong' is that its nigh on impossible to identify with the guy.

Lance, or Neil?  Although you're probably right on both counts, but for completely different reasons.

Actually, being pernickety as I am  - as Armstrong is from Texas and Lemond was born in California technically neither is a Yank.

Sorry, just ignore me.

Armstrong makes me alternately sick and furious. A despicable excuse of a human being.

I am ready to be berrated for thinking this but I don't know if anyone saw it (see link) http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2013/01/15/lance-armstrong-ruined-dodgeball/1837351/ but he is in a 2004 film "Dodgeball", it is a silly comedy film that I happen to giggle at and watching this clip again I kind of feel cheated. I hadn't really followed the media circus surrounding the LA finger pointing but it kind of ruins the rest of the film? Anyone?

Watch Anchorman instead.  He's not in that. 

i felt the same about naked gun

This is just the first step in his new campaign to make money out of confessing to doping. I hope it all backfires on him and after the initial frenzy surrounding the interview people just ignore him.

Cycling doesn't need him. Triathlon doesn't need him. Cancer charities don't need him. Let him fade into the background and try to eek out a living working in a bike repair shop in Texas.

On your bike, Lance!