Is nobody talking about Lance Armstrong?

peds and stuff

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17/01/2013 at 14:00
Dave The Ex- Spartan wrote (see)

That was Tuesday, By yesterday the IOC had already dismissed the idea

thanks for the clarification, 

17/01/2013 at 17:27

Lance Armstrong Bingo

(If any of you get Discovery and can be arsed getting up at 2am)

17/01/2013 at 17:40

sky+, im gonna watch it tomorrow morning whilst im on the turbo trainer

18/01/2013 at 04:01

definitely a psychopath

18/01/2013 at 04:45

Nah!

Hitchcock made a feature film about a psychopath.

Can't see anyone doing one about an arsehole.

18/01/2013 at 08:13

his answers sounded scripted and censored, i dont think he came over very well at all.

GTC
18/01/2013 at 09:11
We should be grateful he is not a politician!
GTC
18/01/2013 at 10:01
GTC wrote (see)
We should be grateful he is not a politician!

...yet...

Nurse Ratched    pirate
19/01/2013 at 12:33

http://s3.runnersworld.co.uk/members/images/497331/gallery/oprah-lance.jpg?width=350

 

19/01/2013 at 13:49

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GNNFGTVbMnM#t=125s

(useless poxy runners world website wont accept the youtube player grrrrr!)

 

 

Edited: 19/01/2013 at 13:53
20/01/2013 at 10:44

LouiseG wrote (see)
GTC wrote (see)
We should be grateful he is not a politician!

...yet...


If, as some have predicted, his Mea Culpa propels him to Governer of Texas then he'll join other respected holders of that office such as ...errrrmm... George W. Bush 

Edited: 20/01/2013 at 10:52
21/01/2013 at 09:19

I've watched the interviews through twice... interesting. What strikes me is the lack of remorse. It looks liek he justifies himself by the ' just fighting back' answers, but it was a missed opportunity to come clean. If anything his attempts to skip around the big issues damns him further.

 

Good point about Vinokourov in the olympic roadrace tho'..

21/01/2013 at 09:25

Still lying about 2009 / 10 though.  Claims not to have cheated then, but his biological passport says differently.

21/01/2013 at 09:28

I dislike Lance and what he has done but surely any penalty he receeves must be consistent with other drugs cheats.

21/01/2013 at 09:42

Agreed, LouiseG, I simply don't believe him.

21/01/2013 at 09:45
Maxpower North West wrote (see)

I dislike Lance and what he has done but surely any penalty he receeves must be consistent with other drugs cheats.

Other drug cheats didnt bully, or have other riders thrown off the team, or try and pay off the UCI, or sue people who were telling the truth

21/01/2013 at 10:43

Theres urely has to be a difference between someone pressurised into taking drugs ( not saying thats right) and someone who organises the whole shabang, using all manner of means to force others into complying.. where are talking about much more than a drugs cheat. We are talking about a calculating ring-leader.. far far worse.

21/01/2013 at 11:17

Ok so you are proposing to judge him on a new set of rules.

Personally I would ban him for life but then again I would ban David Millar for life.

21/01/2013 at 12:03
Barkles wrote (see)

Theres urely has to be a difference between someone pressurised into taking drugs ( not saying thats right) and someone who organises the whole shabang, using all manner of means to force others into complying.. where are talking about much more than a drugs cheat. We are talking about a calculating ring-leader.. far far worse.

Well yes and no.   If other riders were pressurised into doping so was Lance Armstrong.   They wanted to earn the most they could, he wanted to too, they wanted to win, he wanted to win.   He just took it further - he was a better doper than most others.   He's a driven character, I agree he's a sociopath/psychopath or whatevere the correct term is.   Is it morally any worse to be better at doping than someone else - they are all dopers after all.     

Yes some of them may have had to get on the programme or look for another career - but anyone that rode in the TdF for Lance Armstrong was good enough to get a well paid position at another team.   The likes of Hincapie et al were extremely well paid star cyclists - if they didn't want to dope they didn't have to ride for USPostal/Discovery/Astana did they ?

Yes the guy is a bully - and what he has done to the likes of BetsyA, Simeoni, Landis,  et al  is disgraceful but it's debatable whether that is worth extra sporting suspension.   

I could never understood why he was so liked anyway - it's not like any of this is news.   Right from reading his first book he obviously had a steak cut chip on his shoulder, he's always obviously been a knob and I was saying on here at least 6-7 years ago that anyone that thinks he isn't doping doesn't follow the sport - but there you go.   His determination remains admirable though.  

21/01/2013 at 13:28

I bet there's still people out there who wish that they were Lance Armstrong, even now!

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