Let's bomb Syria!

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28/08/2013 at 08:20

Sounds crazy doesn't it? But probably because gassing is, by its very nature, indiscriminate.

You can use all sorts of other weapons and claim to be trying to avoid civilian casualties but you can't make the same claim with gas. 

Cake    pirate
28/08/2013 at 12:29
LouiseG wrote (see)

I've never understood why it's ok to shoot your citizens but not gas them.  But maybe that's a discussion for another day...


It's not still a war crime but also all war is a crime.

The only real difference is that if you shot citizens you might be able to claim it was in error in a war zone. Regardless of how hard you try citizens always die in the cross fire anyone who tell's you different is ever a idiot or lyeing.

Chemical weason's however are banned by international law althrough most countries that have had them still have them in some capacity and the us are no moral high ground in this as above.

JvR
28/08/2013 at 12:52

Whatever decisions the Security Council makes it has to be specific and not get everybody embroiled in what will be a very costly war that has the real possibility of escalating out of control.

I'd like to see them state that they will not tolerate the use of chemical weapons within Syria and will take steps the necessary steps to stop their use if either side appear to be going to use them.
After that I'd like to see everyone take a step back and allow the UN Inspectors to do their job. Once the results of their investigation are available then whoever used the chemical weapons can be held to account.

As for UK and US forces spearheading any action, unfortunately, when you have some of the most advanced weapons and best trained forces in the world, people tend to let you take the lead. Its just a shame that successive governments haven't realised that because the UK armed forces are some of the best in the world that they need to provide them with the support they need if they are going to chuck them into conflicts over and over.

28/08/2013 at 15:34

There's still no proof that chemical weapons have been used and I for one (and possibly in a minority of one) think that some of the footage we've seen looks somewhat contrived.

I do wonder, howwever, why UN inspectors weren't allowed in the area for five days. Let's hope that modern forensics can discover the truth. Trouble is vif results come back negative there are those that will say that the results are due to the delay.

The whole thing tends to remind me of the WMD screw up though 

Cake    pirate
28/08/2013 at 16:24

groovy afriad San ton fonter's (spelling sorry) are saying it has been used and I'd trust them more than others and there is chemical samples that turkey and other nato people are saying proves it. Who used them is the only issue to me that isn't set in stone is who has used them. Assad is as guilt as a puppy next to poo as far as I'm consirned but that's just me and not proof.

28/08/2013 at 16:42

I'd like to see proof I'm afraid. It's not that I necessarily believe that chemicals haven't been used it's just the footage doesn't convince me. We live in a digital media age and most propaganda comes through that channel but we also know that it can be easily manipulated

28/08/2013 at 16:56

Lets bomb the badgers instead 

seren nos yn canu    pirate
28/08/2013 at 17:05

not sure why america keeps on about the chemical weapons on innocent people mind..........when they sent the nuclear bomb on whole cities filled with innocent people.... can't see how they can take the moral high ground on this 

28/08/2013 at 17:53

Palestine hasn't any oil has it ? 

Cake    pirate
28/08/2013 at 17:58

 Err I don't disagree with that conpleately but the uk did supple the palestinians with much of there police equipment and training and has joined in some but not all of the resultions in the past condeming Israeli action. If we have a poor track record in one area should we just allow murder in anouther?

The Israelie/Arab situation has at times been both sides calling the kettle black at each other and isn't as clear cut as your making it out to be.

seren nos yn canu    pirate
28/08/2013 at 18:00
Flob wrote (see)

considering hoing into Syria but not intervening when the Israeli army kills countless Palestinians, makes no sense to me. Lives seem to be valued based on what the USUK coalition can earn from it. The British and American politicians should hang their heads in shame for allowing Israel to slaughter civilians and then fiercely protecting Isreal from other Arab states. 

I think morality is more like moroility these days...,,

I actually agree with you on that one as well..

28/08/2013 at 22:47
 Flob wrote (see)

considering hoing into Syria but not intervening when the Israeli army kills countless Palestinians, makes no sense to me. Lives seem to be valued based on what the USUK coalition can earn from it. The British and American politicians should hang their heads in shame for allowing Israel to slaughter civilians and then fiercely protecting Isreal from other Arab states. 

I think morality is more like moroility these days...,,

Any thoughts on Hamas, Hezbollah, rockets being fired into Israel and suicide bombings in Israel or Arab idealism intent on doing what Hitler could not? 

O.K. Flob, Israel started it all........it is poor perception like Flob that perpetuates such thinking, hate and killing. It also serves well those who might wish to widen the current conflict in Syria. 

Those Middle East countries need to find peace and difficult as it is the first step is to STOP revenge fighting/blaming each other. Believe it or not Flob but those politicians are even now trying to broker peace between Arab and Israeli.

Edited: 28/08/2013 at 22:48
28/08/2013 at 22:49
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Edited: 28/08/2013 at 22:51
28/08/2013 at 23:53

Can we bomb Iran as well get it all over and done with??


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