Makes me mad!!!

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16/05/2003 at 13:49
how you can get away with killing people in a car! time after time, people get away with poxy fines and short bans for killing people.

Some bloke in the paper today was fined £200 and banned for two years fro wiping out a cyclist. The driver had never passed his test, was overtaking cars at 60mph in a 30mph zone. Kid on bike was all in black, which is very sensible, but still.

Anyway, what makes anyone think that this idiot will take heed of the ban? He hasn't got a licence anyway has he?
AND in this case they said "please don't give him too big a fine cos he already owes 1400 quid in fines." And the other fines were for? MOTORING OFFENSES!!!!! How many more people will this guy be allowed to wipe off the face of the earth before they lock him up?

hmm not ranted as much as I thought I would here! But it seems like murdering people in cars is the best way to do it. Forget knives, guns, strangling, jsut mow them down with a motor and you can get away with it.
16/05/2003 at 13:51

shoot the git.
16/05/2003 at 13:52
16/05/2003 at 13:53
Animal. make him live with Jon in Tooting for a month....bad punishment!
16/05/2003 at 14:00
There seems to be quite a few cases like this.
16/05/2003 at 14:20
Tulips - exactly. it's not a rare occurrence is it? it's shite
cougie    pirate
16/05/2003 at 14:24
cns - I agree with ya. They treat theft far more severely than they do killing people with cars. I don't ride my bike at night any more - just too dangerous !
16/05/2003 at 14:25
I'm afraid the system has to take some of the blame, it should not be possible for such a sentance to be handed down.

2 seperate issues here

1... the driver.
2. The sentance.
WildWill    pirate
16/05/2003 at 14:26
Bring back the stocks
The whip
The Birch
And a the chaingang
16/05/2003 at 14:48
we don't want to know what you get up to in you're spare time Will.

They have increased the maximum sentence for killing someone with a car.
16/05/2003 at 14:52
The people of a free society get the judiciary that they deserve, the judiciary can only act within the constraints of the acts passed by parliament, and parliament is a body elected by you to act for you. If you don't like it, tell your MP not the forum. Your MP should act for you and as your representative in parliament should represent the views of the people in his constituency. If all he hears all day is people moaning that their benefit payments are late he will focus his attentions on addressing the benefits system. If all he hears all day are people saying "hang the bastard" he should, as your representative reflect your views in parliament.

Tell your MP.

Cut his hands off, then watch him try to drive.
16/05/2003 at 14:53
Unfortunatey they still have to impose it Tulips. They can extend the maximum to life, but if the judge decides that a fine and a ban are enough, it is irrelevant.
16/05/2003 at 14:54
My sentiments seem to have been expressed in printable I won't tell you, well maybe just a little


Power to tha cyclists...

16/05/2003 at 15:01
agree with DB!!!!

including the last bit.
16/05/2003 at 15:15
i don't think i'd better be drawn on elected/accountable/populist/vote-seeking/lynch mob politicians vs experienced/intelligent/circumscribed judges.i'm not a neutral.but i know that judges do 'live in the real world'.blunkett is blind.does he?

was it a judge or a magistrate?

key question.given that there seems to have been a whiff that public opinion is we should send loads more convicted criminals(nb they don't catch many and don't convict many of the ones they catch-thanks police and prosecutors for that)to prison,and politicians seem to have believed that since Maggie,why haven't the home office built about 50 new prisons,so that at least being deprived of liberty for a serious length of time is the punishment rather than being overcrowded into a subhuman environment-slopping out,university of crime and almost complete certainty of drug abuse-and forgotten about.i'm no apologist for criminals but it seems odd to be having to let a load of them out because the prisons are full and we want to stuff some more and demand?perhaps its just that no mp wants a great big shiny new prison in their constituency....
16/05/2003 at 15:16
and,mr headmaster,talk me through the 'sentance' !!! :-)
sp. see me later.
16/05/2003 at 15:32
Laws, in general, aim to hurt the law-abiding. Those who live perpetually outside the law (no licence, insurance etc) are not hurt by the law. They are less easy to trace and catch and also unlikely to heed disqualifications and/or fines.

Eloquence over. Shoot the b@st@rds
16/05/2003 at 17:35
Alex, why do you think a blind person cannot live in the 'real world'?
16/05/2003 at 18:56
I read the story in the paper and also the one about the 79 yr old director of Sotheby's who had colluded with another auction house to what amounted to a fraud. He gets a prison sentence!!

The old feller is not going to kill me or my family by his behaviour. The worst is he'll rip me off a few quid. I don't need prison protection from him , but we do off the speeding scum.

Same argument with Jeffrey Archer really. He's a lying philandering pompous Tory twat, but I don't feel threatened by him. I can think of a dozen people in this village I'd rather see banged up than him.
Crash Hamster    pirate
16/05/2003 at 19:04
Well said Bod.

Shouldn't non-payment of fines, non-observance of bans etc qualify as contempt of court, which should result in indefinite imprisonment?

It irritates me greatly that the emphasis is put on persecuting basically law-abiding motorists, while leaving reckless morons to wreak carnage (and grossly distort the road death statistics, which are then used to persecute basically law-abiding motorists etc)

Break the cycle, crack down hard on the loony 1%, make the roads safer for everyone!

<deep slow breaths> thank you for listening

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