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seren nos    pirate
08/04/2013 at 17:32

so the people from the water board were walking up and down our street today to try and sort out a problem....fair enough.they knocked nicely on the door to say they would be turning the wtaer off....

but then i see them using divining roads walking up and down the road.........come on ..there must be more scientific and modern methods to find the water pipes surely....haven't they got a map

Edited: 08/04/2013 at 17:32
cougie    pirate
08/04/2013 at 17:33
No waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay !
08/04/2013 at 17:34

What a time for them to spring that on us.

08/04/2013 at 18:18

Do you know the name of the water company? 

seren nos    pirate
08/04/2013 at 18:21

RPS. was on the vans.......made me thing of birds for some reason

08/04/2013 at 18:27

Thanks seren, it's a bit frightnening that someone's water bill is funding such things.

seren nos    pirate
08/04/2013 at 18:31

and now the other company is digging up the road.its not an emerge3ncy so why are they digging this time of night.if my kids were small i would be pissed off as they were always getting rady for bed now

08/04/2013 at 19:12
seren nos wrote (see)

and now the other company is digging up the road.its not an emerge3ncy so why are they digging this time of night.if my kids were small i would be pissed off as they were always getting rady for bed now.

 

nice to know you are an expert in these things Seren.  my husband works for dwr cymru and he just loves customers who dont care where their water comes from or where their s**t goes when they flush, just as long as they aren't inconvenienced.

 

08/04/2013 at 19:28

How do you know that its not an emrgency?

seren nos    pirate
08/04/2013 at 20:53
SuperCaz wrote (see)

How do you know that its not an emrgency?

Miffi wrote (see)
seren nos wrote (see)

and now the other company is digging up the road.its not an emerge3ncy so why are they digging this time of night.if my kids were small i would be pissed off as they were always getting rady for bed now.

 

nice to know you are an expert in these things Seren.  my husband works for dwr cymru and he just loves customers who dont care where their water comes from or where their s**t goes when they flush, just as long as they aren't inconvenienced.

 

 

 

Its not an emergency beacuse the guys have been employed just to dig the holes....we will now wait for the guys to come some time to replace the pipe from the mains across the road to the stopcock of the house opposite.....

it happens every year or so as one of the houses decides to get rid of the lead pipes supplying the property.......

if you get rid of your lead pipe the water board replaces the lead pipe to your stopcock..

 

so I still think that for a routine job to be digging with electric drills etc and a digger at 8:30 at night is not on....and  i was very polite I was quite happy to put up with my water going on and off today as they tried to work out whose water was connected to what...,,and no i did not have a go at the men digging as its probably not their decision to work that late

and if you work for welsh water........can you find out if they really haven't come up with anything more scientific than divining roads

08/04/2013 at 21:14

RPS are an environmental consultancy, not a water company

seren nos    pirate
08/04/2013 at 21:19

right......they must be employed to mark out the places for the diggers to dig........if its like the gas.......

another company will do the pipes and then another to fill in the hole and then yet another to do the top tarmac......

 

08/04/2013 at 21:38

RPS are most likely carrying out an environmental assessment to see what actions the water board need to take.  I'm not an expert in the specific contracts that RPS have with the water board but they are probably concerned about the level of heavy metals that have soaked into the ground around the pipes, or there could even be some contaminated ground that is causing something nasty to leach into the drinking water.

I did used to work for the labs that tested drinking water quality and if we found something unusual and potentially harmful in the water then action was taken immediatly.  It may be that the labs only discovered a problem in the afternoon and it was decided to protect people by resolving the problem immediatly rather than allow people to continue to drink the water for several more hours before investigating at a time that was convenient for sleeping children.

seren nos    pirate
08/04/2013 at 21:43

no pipes have been touched caz........just the holes dug

 

many house around here still have the lead pipes....RPS were around early this morning........

I appreciate in emergencies then all the amenities have to work all through the night to get the supplies back on.

we will see how long until the next bunch come to actually change the pipes.....I imagine it will have to be a priority as they haven't left enough room for a fire engine to get down the street

cougie    pirate
08/04/2013 at 21:58
But dowsing ? Seriously ? This is the 21st century ?
Do they use crystal balls to calculate your usage ?
And they should get their alchemist department onto turning all those lead pipes into gold.
08/04/2013 at 22:07

Exactly Seren, they won't have potentially made the problem worse by disturbing the pipes until they have carried out an investigation to determine the scale of the problem, or whether they even have the right cause of the problem.  Even modern technology can't always identify the problem through 2 metres of concrete and soil.

They probably had to take samples and now those samples are winging their way off to some poor sod on minimum wage who is going to have to work through the night to get the results back as soon as possible before people start complaining about having their road dug up.  Oh yes, I rmember the days...

08/04/2013 at 22:38
seren nos wrote (see)

right......they must be employed to mark out the places for the diggers to dig........if its like the gas.......

another company will do the pipes and then another to fill in the hole and then yet another to do the top tarmac......

 

 


Um, well it makes sense to have the holes dug and waiting for the crew who are trained to do the pipe stuff and then the first lot reinstate.  Clean water contractors have very strict controls, as you would hope, about contamination of the water supply so it makes sense to keep the two operations separate.

as for the time of night they are working.. could be lots of reasons, eg council wont give permission for work on the highway during 'busy' times.  shops and businesses complain to their councillors if roads are dug up and they feel they are losing business.  the water company are being hit by big fines from Ofwat for not getting jobs done within time targets.  they wont be working late just for the fun of it.

Dowsing, should have no way of working.  any yet oddly its still used by some of these guys.

09/04/2013 at 00:03

I'm curious to know why the dowsing rods thing is seen as a problem. If it works it works. If it ain't broke........

I don't doubt there's a gadget on sale for £1000 that would do the same job but be useless if the battery runs flat.

seren nos    pirate
09/04/2013 at 07:00

I'm not doubting that they might work oi you....

but I have nbot come across any scientific data that saya that it has been prooved.....

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so i was suprised and amused that they were using some.........maybe I nave been tricked bu time time who seem to have so many scientiic gadgets to help them try and work out what is under the surface......that i thought that the water people would have something a bit more up to date.....

the other person had a stick that she could tap on the ground and kind of listen to through a kind of ear piece.also seemed very victorian......

 

 

09/04/2013 at 08:14

The stick and ear piece method is very well known. Sound travels much better through solid than through gas. Using the stick in contact with ground and ear is a very good way of hearing running water in the soil - a good method of locating leaks so that the correct section of road is dug up.

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