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Dark Vader pirate

pirate

03/02/2012 at 18:07

I bet the ex-wife is kicking herself now for not keeping quiet about it......

skotty

03/02/2012 at 18:10

Badly Drawn Bloke wrote (see)

You're assuming he's guilty already DV? Innocent until proven and all that.

yes, but in this high profile case I presume that the prosecution wouldn't go ahead with it unless they were fairly certain of the evidence they have.

skotty

03/02/2012 at 18:13

Catalin Bond wrote (see)

It does happpen.Probably more than we think. A friend's boyfriend payed an employee to take points!

i know someone who was jailed for that. 6 months i think.

i wouldn't do it.

it seems that people regard this as a trivial matter though and then go on about the stupidity of jailing someone for speeding. but that isn't what it is about at all.

Badly Drawn Bloke

03/02/2012 at 18:14

That argument is often used. So the CPS determine guilt rather than a court and jury?

skotty

03/02/2012 at 18:19

Badly Drawn Bloke wrote (see)

That argument is often used. So the CPS determine guilt rather than a court and jury?

no, but i think in this case they'd prefer to drop the case due to lack of evidence if they weren't fairly certain of guilt. but i agree with what you are saying and he should get a fair trial. the jury will decide.

skotty

03/02/2012 at 18:20

i'm not usually a daily mail reader but this story might make people think about the consequences:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1390586/Would-ask-loved-speeding-points-I-did-I-live-consequences.html

Kwilter with a K

03/02/2012 at 18:27

SuperCaz wrote (see)

I do know someone who has done it as the person who would have lost their licence would also have lost their job and income if they were unable to drive.

Surely that's all the more reason follow the law, like the rest of us do, rather than try and illegally get oput of a punishment.

For the record, I wouldn't take the points for someone else, if I did have a driving licence

M.ister W

03/02/2012 at 18:45

So the police have spent 8 months investigating, the CPS have spent time putting a case together and now the courts are going to prosecute. Where's the public interest in spending that much tax payers money on this?

skotty

03/02/2012 at 18:47

so the law of the land can be upheld?

or shall we only prosecute financially viable cases?

that wouldn't leave too many.

SuperCaz

04/02/2012 at 07:24

It's a deterent to others Mr. W. People do think of speeding in the same sort of category of seriousness as illegal music sharing - we all know that we shouldn't but who's going to know or care? Hopefully by making this case so public it will deter others from transfering points, or even from speeding in the first place, which in the long term will reduce the number of cases needing to come to court, and hence money, and also the number of accidents caused by speeding, which could save lives.

cougie

pirate

04/02/2012 at 07:35

I'd have thought this is a very serious crime. The guy seems to have been flouting the law repeatedly with little or no consideration for other road users ? And then lying about it to save his own skin. A driving licence is a privilege - not an automatic right.

Crash Hamster pirate

pirate

04/02/2012 at 07:57

I think this is a good prosecution as if successful it takes someone off the road who seems to have no consideration of the rules. The roads would be much safer if there was a concerted campaign to take the worst 10% of drivers off the roads.

Remember that only 18% of fatalities are caused in accidents where breaking the speed limit or driving too fast for the conditions are cited as a cause. Over 4x as many deaths are caused in accidents where the speed limits are observed. (you can find this in the national archives online if you don't believe me)

Bad driving kills, especially poor observation.

Helen Liz

04/02/2012 at 08:12

I like the way they are BOTH being prosecuted for perjury. I bet that wasn't what she had in mind when she decided to try and get back at him.

seren nos

pirate

04/02/2012 at 08:18

skotty......that article.....the woman was still only guilty about lying to the police and getting caught......she still only saw her speeding as minor events.....although she was caught several times........

she was worried about going to jail for lying.......

she should be grateful she hasn't got to explain to a court and a family why she thought speeding was more important that the life of their mother/father/son/daughter

Dark Vader pirate

pirate

04/02/2012 at 09:47

M.ister W wrote (see)

So the police have spent 8 months investigating, the CPS have spent time putting a case together and now the courts are going to prosecute. Where's the public interest in spending that much tax payers money on this?

That's a very good point. It was an offence commited 9 years ago... no one would say it should be ignored but in the overall scheme of things it's a relatively modest offence... no one has been hurt. Just slap them both with a fine and let life go on....

skotty

04/02/2012 at 13:54

Dark Vader wrote (see)

Just slap them both with a fine and let life go on....

there's no mechanism for doing that now as it is a criminal offence.

so they'll have to take their chances in court.

seren nos

pirate

04/02/2012 at 14:17

and if someone gets a gun and randomly shoots if off in a shopping centre or school.........then as long as he happens to miss everyone he should just be given a slap on the wrists and sent on their way.....

anyone constantly ignoring the rules of the land should take the consequences of their action

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