Political Correctness

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24/03/2013 at 16:29

You are a true angel Hash

Such sacrifice I am sure won't go unrewarded 

24/03/2013 at 16:38

N-word,  I-word D-word T-word P-word C-word H-word G-word T-word F-word !!!

 

24/03/2013 at 16:56
bos1 wrote (see)

Sometimes people see a PC agenda where there isnt one. Lot of the stories about christmas having been banned turn out not to be true.

 

Made up by the Daily Mail

 

 

Edited: 24/03/2013 at 16:57
24/03/2013 at 17:06

Some of these overreactions about Christmas and Easter are totally unfounded - people worrying about offending other people when there's very little chance of them actually being offended. Also, if a non-Christian is offended by an Easter egg then I'm afraid it's their problem. If your faith is that fragile then you need to have a word with yourself.

We had a sale of Christmas decorations at work the other day. The girl with the biggest bag of stuff is a Hindu. She doesn't even celebrate Christmas!

24/03/2013 at 17:08
Funny how there's so many corporate Christmas cards I get that say "happy holidays" or some such shite then...
kittenkat    pirate
24/03/2013 at 17:08

I would take chocolate and alcohol from any religion.

24/03/2013 at 17:59

I might draw the line at halal chocolate

kittenkat    pirate
24/03/2013 at 18:12

I agree, no cocoa beans should suffer.

24/03/2013 at 21:18

I think Polly Toynbee has it right when she calls it 'an empty right-wing smear designed only to elevate its user'. Will Hutton said 'political correctness is one of the brilliant tools that the American right developed in the mid-1980s as part of its demolition of American liberalism...What the sharpest thinkers on the American right saw quickly was that by declaring war on the cultural manifestations of liberalism - by levelling the charge of "political correctness" against its exponents - they could discredit the whole political project.'

For myself, I think there is really no such thing as political correctness, and certainly no such thing as a political correctness movement, simply continuing discourse on a range of issues, some of which has value, some of which does not.

24/03/2013 at 21:21
Johnny Blaze wrote (see)
I can't abide it when harmless terms like Merry Christmas are banned or replaced because some idiot somewhere thinks someone somewhere is going to be offended by its use. The politcal correctness agenda reaches into our lives in lots of different ways. Sometimes it is reasonable, and sometimes it is ridiculous.

I don't think it is purely synonymous with "not being offensive". I think it has a deeper agenda quite often which is this, "not only do you have to conform with MY way of thinking, you have to adopt it unquestioningly or you will be cast into outer darkness."

George Orwell would have hated it, I'm sure.

Please give me an example that isn't made up of 'merry christmas' being banned.

24/03/2013 at 21:54

To be fair I think that "Happy Holidays" came about as a catch-all that covered Christmas, Kwanzaa and Hanukkah. Let's face it the last nation in the would that's going to want Christmas to lose its identity is the US.

The irony is, of course, that it sort of does.

24/03/2013 at 22:09
Peter Collins wrote (see)

Please give me an example that isn't made up of 'merry christmas' being banned.

When I worked for Coventry City Council we weren't allowed to decorate the office for Christmas in case it offended people.    

25/03/2013 at 09:15

Protecting the Few from offence or perceived offence causes offence to the many, why is this ignored?

26/03/2013 at 15:07

Well said EKGO.

And..why is it, that as an average, hetro, athiest, white (supremacist! pmsl), middle aged, working class, British male, I don't find anything anybody says offensive? I can't think of one word or phrase that could be used in my company or about me that would bother me in the slightest. Well, unless I was in a bad mood, but then it would just be grumpiness and sayng anything would offend me.

So why do some social, political or ethnic groups take offence so easily?

 

26/03/2013 at 15:09
popsider wrote (see)
Peter Collins wrote (see)

Please give me an example that isn't made up of 'merry christmas' being banned.

When I worked for Coventry City Council we weren't allowed to decorate the office for Christmas in case it offended people.    

That's not what I'd call political correctness. If true, it's just stupidity.

26/03/2013 at 15:10
Lå®Ð䮧€ wrote (see)

Well said EKGO.

And..why is it, that as an average, hetro, athiest, white (supremacist! pmsl), middle aged, working class, British male, I don't find anything anybody says offensive? I can't think of one word or phrase that could be used in my company or about me that would bother me in the slightest. Well, unless I was in a bad mood, but then it would just be grumpiness and sayng anything would offend me.

So why do some social, political or ethnic groups take offence so easily?

 

Ah shut up, ya bloody jogger !!

Dave The Ex- Spartan    pirate
26/03/2013 at 15:12
Ah but Coventry was full of wacky politicians. Where's Dave Nellist when we need a laugh ?
26/03/2013 at 15:13
EKGO wrote (see)

Protecting the Few from offence or perceived offence causes offence to the many, why is this ignored?

Well, just as one example, faced with a demand from the majority to be allowed to use the 'N' word to describe the only black person in a workplace, I know which side I'd be on (and it wouldn't be the majority). This is why I think this is simply about continuous discourse, with the answers changing with fashion and mores. I've taken a pretty extreme example to show why the majority might not always be right just because they're a majority. That will apply to lots of other situations - but there'll always be grey areas and also people who say and do very silly things in the name of an imagined equality issue.

26/03/2013 at 15:25
Peter Collins wrote (see)
Well, just as one example, faced with a demand from the majority to be allowed to use the 'N' word to describe the only black person in a workplace, I know which side I'd be on (and it wouldn't be the majority).

 

But what if his name actually IS Nigel ?

 

26/03/2013 at 16:17
Peter Collins wrote (see)
EKGO wrote (see)

Protecting the Few from offence or perceived offence causes offence to the many, why is this ignored?

Well, just as one example, faced with a demand from the majority to be allowed to use the 'N' word to describe the only black person in a workplace, I know which side I'd be on (and it wouldn't be the majority). This is why I think this is simply about continuous discourse, with the answers changing with fashion and mores. I've taken a pretty extreme example to show why the majority might not always be right just because they're a majority. That will apply to lots of other situations - but there'll always be grey areas and also people who say and do very silly things in the name of an imagined equality issue.


There lies the problem, the arrogance of the few that choose what is right for the many is more offensive than any words
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