Road tax rant!

Thieving gits!!!

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07/02/2013 at 22:22

Just received my reminder - £270 for the year or £148.50 for 6 months. Normally I'd pay for a year but rather too many bills at once so 6 months would be better. But how can they justify a 10% premium for paying in 2 instalments?? I know it's 2 reminders and 2 discs but £27?? My pay has been static for 3 years, pension payments have tripled, utilities are going up and now this - it's a tax on paying tax and taking advantage, how can it be justified? If you have a historic vehicle the tax is free just as if you declare your vehicle as off road so their costs can't be that much....

Rant not over - just on hold.....

cougie    pirate
07/02/2013 at 22:27
Road tax was abolished in 1937 I think ?
07/02/2013 at 22:37

Still thieving gits.

07/02/2013 at 22:40

Get a more efficient car!  Even mine's less than that!

07/02/2013 at 22:47
Intermanaut wrote (see)

Get a more efficient car!  Even mine's less than that!

I agree.

07/02/2013 at 23:40
I've just advertised my Citroen C1 for sale, 20 quid tax per year! Big engines mean big emissions and heavy tax!
07/02/2013 at 23:59
I'd much rather pay ??195 for the VED on my M-class than the ??20 on your C1!
08/02/2013 at 00:03
Your obviously a car enthusiast where as to me its just a mode of transport. Re he point I make is that even in these dark economic times there are savings to be made if you really need to make them.
08/02/2013 at 00:20

No duty on my pushy. I can't afford a car so I cycle.

I'm tight really.

Edited: 08/02/2013 at 00:20
08/02/2013 at 07:23
Think of it as a discount if you pay annually
08/02/2013 at 09:02
cougie wrote (see)
Road tax was abolished in 1937 I think ?

Spot the cyclist

08/02/2013 at 09:27

I sometimes hear the rants of motorists shouting about the fact that "cyclists don't pay road tax".  

Aside from the fact that there's no such thing any more, I DO pay the modern equivalent - on my car.

And although I can't remember how much is was, I'm damn sure it wasn't £270.  Get a smaller car.

 

 

 

08/02/2013 at 09:50
How about we do away with it altogether and collect the duty from petrol? The more you use the more you pay. It's no good moaning about something unless you come up with a better system to replace it. Any other ideas?
08/02/2013 at 10:07

simple - and as others have said - get a more efficient car....

my BMW M Sport Tourer (2litre diesel) only costs £30 a year in VED as the CO2 emissions are very low - and it goes like shit off a shovel and is (when I take my lead boot off ) very fuel efficient

Symes-lent night    pirate
08/02/2013 at 13:23

To be fair, as with the OP I don't really care if the annual amount is £20 or £20,000 it's wholly unfair to charge such a mark up for paying in two installments.

08/02/2013 at 13:25

It may not be practical or realistic for Mr Everitt to get a smaller or more efficient car - we know not what his driving duties entail, what mileage he covers, how many passengers he carries nor what he may need to tow in the course of a working or non-working day. 

Sussex Runner - you've got the right idea.

08/02/2013 at 14:09

I wouldn't have a problem with VED if they spent it on the roads, especially all the pot-holes around this time. The trouble is it is a tax but nor a road tax just a tax.

However a smaller car would help you!

08/02/2013 at 14:09

I deliberately bought a Fiesta Econetic because the car had zero tax due to its super low emissions.  However, I needed it in a van form for work.  Even though it's identical apart from no back windows or seats, I have to pay something like £250 tax because it's a van.

Blisters    pirate
08/02/2013 at 14:18

Thieving gits? I don't think so. Central functions need to be paid for by a civilised society. All we are discussing is the relative fairness of the distribution of the tax bill. Many of the above comments are broadly in agreement, even the opening post was to some degree. Road fund licence/car tax/vehicle exise duty is priced on a sliding scale to promote the use of fuel efficient vehicles and ultimately to dissuade the over-use of inefficient vehicles. It is not out to banish motor enthusiasts or to kill the motor industry. It is a very complicated mechanism of adding tax to fuel used in vehicles.
That leads us neatly on to the biggest question.
Why don't we abolish VED and put the equivalent duty directly onto fuel? Before you throw up your arms in horror, this has indeed been investigated. The total tax rasied by VED divided into the total quantity of road fuel sold in the UK works out at a mere 4p per litre. The price has changed by that much this week without anyone batting an eyelid.

Advantages:
-You can use your big engined weekend car if you want to, but will be incentivised to minimise the mileage.
-You can make a difference to your bills by driving economically
-The tax is really simple to collect
-All foreign visitors and truckers will pay their share.
-we can dismantle the costly bureaucracy related to VED collection and tax disk displaying. After all, it is now irellevant since computerisation of the MOT and insurance systems.
-Even the caravan dwelling population would have to pay.

Disadvantages
-There is a challenge politically, as petrol prices are seen to be a sensitive issue. Blockades of the refineries nearly crippled the UK far more completely than Al Quaida did.
-er that's it?

cougie    pirate
08/02/2013 at 14:29
Could we tie this into motor insurance too ? Something like you need an insurance credit card to pay for petrol and if you've no insurance - you can't buy the petrol ?
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