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05/12/2012 at 19:55

they are a ceremonial head of state and are apolitical with less of a vested interest than a president would ever have

there are equal opportunities in this country.

05/12/2012 at 20:12
Yes there are. Just some are more equal than others.

And, I'm going to have to do my self assessment tax form shortly. So I *might* become bitter then.
05/12/2012 at 20:15
Too Much Water wrote (see)

there are equal opportunities in this country.

Really? Who told you that then?

I quite like the Irish system. You have a ceremonial head of state who does all the ceremonial stuff for a few years while leaving the politics to the politicians, and then goes off and gets a plum job in the EU or somewhere like that ... a good way of raising your profile and gaining influence imho.

But the republican argument is never going to get any traction while Mrs Windsor is still on the throne. Can't fault her, regardless of what one might think of the system or some of the members of her family.

07/12/2012 at 15:36

hoax call had tragic consequences:

Duchess of Cambridge hoax call nurse found dead

A nurse at London's King Edward VII hospital who took a hoax call about the Duchess of Cambridge has been found dead, the BBC understands.

Police were called at 09:35 GMT to reports of a woman found unconscious at an address in central London.

The hospital is expected to make a statement. Her family have been told.

07/12/2012 at 15:51

Holy fuck, quite simply the most shocking outcome ever, poor girl.

07/12/2012 at 15:52

Very sad but is that not a massive overreaction by any stretch of the imagination? 

07/12/2012 at 16:07

Scotland Yard said the death was being treated as unexplained and enquiries were continuing.

Bizarre, but hardly a "consequence" unless there's a more up to date news source?

07/12/2012 at 16:13

you are right. i am sure it is all just a bizarre coincidence and totally unrelated.

Edited: 07/12/2012 at 16:13
07/12/2012 at 16:14

Pranks can have consequences?

Well, OMG !

Tell EKGO, somebody.

07/12/2012 at 16:27
skotty wrote (see)

you are right. i am sure it is all just a bizarre coincidence and totally unrelated.

Well who the fuck knows either way till an explanation comes out?  But no, conjecture about someone's untimely demise is much more fun.

07/12/2012 at 16:28

Hmmm, well I can imagine someone who was already depressed feeling pretty bad about this.   Maybe she felt that she'd been made to look like a complete idiot in front of the world - not going to be great for self esteem is it ?  

Who knows how many people have topped themselves after a heated discussion in Clubhouse - it's certainly quieter around here these days - KK has a lot to answer for.   

07/12/2012 at 16:35
PhilPub wrote (see)
skotty wrote (see)

you are right. i am sure it is all just a bizarre coincidence and totally unrelated.

Well who the fuck knows either way till an explanation comes out?  But no, conjecture about someone's untimely demise is much more fun.

i don't think anyone was having fun or speculating about her demise.

seems quite clear from the initial reports unless you want to convince us otherwise.

"

Dr Peter Carter, chief executive and general secretary of the Royal College of Nursing, said: "This is tragic news, and the thoughts of all at the Royal College of Nursing go to the family of Jacintha Saldanha.

"It is deeply saddening that a simple human error due to a cruel hoax could lead to the death of a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession."



07/12/2012 at 16:49

All very tragic and odd. But I don't think the hoax was cruel.

Certainly seems an extreme reaction to the hoax. There are clearly things that we don't know.

The hospital said it had been "supporting her through this difficult time", which seems to hint at something going on that they don't wish to expand on for whatever reason.

seren nos    pirate
07/12/2012 at 16:55

the hoax in itself wasn't cruel.these have been done through every decade...........noel edmonds did them every week.......

its sad that she got caught out forgetting what she was suppossed to be doing..........but she hadn't even been suspended for it...so i presume that there has to be other underlying factors.....

its very sad...but she was not forced divulge personal information to a complete stranger

07/12/2012 at 16:57

she didn't.

she passed the call onto someone else who divulged personal information to a complete stranger.

seren nos    pirate
07/12/2012 at 17:17

ok.didn't realise that.not sure why it could be connected then........

07/12/2012 at 17:22
skotty wrote (see)
 

"It is deeply saddening that a simple human error due to a cruel hoax could lead to the death of a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession."



Fair dos.  Didn't see that bit.

Slighly bizarre and tragic circumstances then, and I guess the prank caller won't really deserve to feel quite as guilty or demonised as they no doubt will, although I've never been a big fan of the hoax / prank / practical joke genre, and generally think those involved at least deserve a punch in the face.  Especially Noel Edmonds.

Edited: 07/12/2012 at 17:23
07/12/2012 at 18:09

If an experienced nurse was working on reception it suggests there was something else going on in her life.  Its not for us to say what is or isn't an over reaction without knowing the full story. Its very sad.

I'm not a fan of the prank genre either. +1 for punching Noel Edmonds. 

07/12/2012 at 20:45
Soup Dragon wrote (see)

If an experienced nurse was working on reception it suggests there was something else going on in her life.  

she wasn't working on reception. it was 5:30AM so there was no reception. she was the unlucky one who picked up the phone.

I hear there are lots of calls for the DJs to be sacked. I disagree with this - if they have an ounce of decency they will resign.

seren nos    pirate
07/12/2012 at 20:49

don't see why on earth they should resign........she wasn't the unlucky one.it was the one who took the call off her and forgot the rules about confidentiality.......

blaming her for passing on the call is like blaming the satelite for passing on the call......

if we call for their resignation then we need to stop every tv program that works with pranks or jokes .......also manybe all comedy programmes as they might make a joke that offends someone....and maybe all the police programmes as showing crimes might make someone kill themselves as they are screed of going out.

it is unfortunate but you cannot blame them if she decided to take her own life

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