Rugby World Cup 2011

New Zealand: 9th September - 23rd October

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08/10/2011 at 15:23

Well done to Wales and France, it will be an interesting semi-final!

Even though I knew the score it was still nerve-wracking watching the match, which makes no sense whatsoever

Dear ITV, any chance of talking to France at some stage?

08/10/2011 at 15:42

I'm hoping that with England out we can loose Phil Vickery from the commentating team. Nick Mullins I can cope with, but Phil sounds like he's shouting the entire time and is just about the most annoying person to listen to that I can imagine.

Wales played out of their little red socks, while England were a bit lax, almost as if they'd believed they'd got the French beaten & just had to turn up. My doubt about the French is their ability to string performances like that together, especially against anyone NOT English.

I will be supporting Wales over the French - you watch that be the kiss of death, so far both predicitons were wrong. Anyone want to take bets on the Argies vs Saffers for the other semi?

08/10/2011 at 16:06

I like it when Vickery's voice goes squeaky when he's excited. I suspect some of his commentary is only audible to dogs

It would be nice if ITV could find an old French player to talk to in the studio even if they can't get anyone for the commentary.

Not sure what will happen for France v Wales. If the French team are going to be their normal inconsistent selves then they'll play badly and lose.

Can't see the Argentinians getting past NZ but still have no idea who's going to win out of SA and AUS.

08/10/2011 at 20:49

Phenomenal.

Just under 3 hours sleep didn't help, but I was there.

Still hungover mind.

BWT
08/10/2011 at 21:17

NZ vs SA semi...

NZ Wales final

NZ win.

09/10/2011 at 20:25
How did Australia win that? 26% possession and 140-odd tackles!
BWT
09/10/2011 at 20:37

idea...  Not impressed well it is now NZ to win!  No team to have lost a pool match has ever gone on to win the World Cup...  SO only NZ to win - 2nd time in 24 years and can only win on home soil!

10/10/2011 at 09:53
Ratzer wrote (see)

Yet, given the draw, who would put good money down against Wales not making the final?  And then, who wouldn't risk a tenner on Wales' very first official victory against the ABs being in their own World Cup final...?  You may call me a dreamer...


Still dreaming...  Favourites against the French?  I like it.

Finally got a clear head to look back on the weekend.  Wales won a great match.  Ireland were there on the day and no more could they have done.  Wales edged it in everything, but most especially in the Coaches' Competition.

England lost.  They gave France some tries and then France only had to sit back and hold on to what they had.  That said, France have some gifted players out wide and back.  And Harinordiquy is a bull.

No idea what happened in that Aus-SA match, but I wouldn't have rated either of their chances for the next match on that basis.  SA couldn't score, and Aus couldn't get out of their own half.

Argies were spirited, and good, but never had enough to concern the All Blacks.  However the ABs didn't manage to show a free style of rugby until the tackles started to fail into the second half.  Now down to their third choice 10, who dropped a little more than his fair share in his 30 mins, they aren't looking as far ahead of the other teams as they did during the group stage.  Aus aren't enough of a challenge though, regardless of the Tri-Nations results.

I read a lot of the papers.  Sunday's Telegraph was funny: after the cover there were four pages on England losing.  Then two pages on Wales and Ireland.  One of the Sky Sports commentators put together his team of the weekend that included two Welsh players and two English, one of which was the boy who first got fined for an interesting gumshield but then yesterday, possibly wisely, decided to jump ship and swim back to Samoa.  I wonder what the coverage will be like next weekend?  Jonny will probably make some of the commentators' teams of the tournament...

10/10/2011 at 10:29
I posted this the other day

"my calls are

Wales
France
Australia
NZ"

am I smug or am I smug??

both Wales and France deserved their wins but how the hell the Convicts won I have no idea. No - I have one - Pocock. Outstanding game who completely unsettled the Boks and ruined their attacks. Awesome player.

NZ hardy turned up but won - not a great NZ display but it got them what they wanted.

the Wales V France semi will be a game to watch - both will want to win that but it will depend to an extent on which French side decides to turn up. it's gonna be interesting! I'll go with Wales

NZ should beat Oz - they have a better attack and they won't let Pocock control the breakdowns like he did against the Saffers.

as for England - woeful tournament both on and off field. I won't cry for them


10/10/2011 at 12:14
I think Wales have shown the benefit of coming through a tough pool that seems to prepare a team for the knock-out stages much better than a series of victories over relatively poorer opposition.

After losing to SA in the first game, every match was effectively "make or break" and it seems to have given the Welsh team a lot of belief. We've also been lucky with injuries (touch wood) and even the injury to James Hook (which I thought was a disaster at the time) provided the opportunity to play Halfpenny at full back and settle on the centre combination of Roberts and Davies, which is proving very effective both in defence and attack.

In contrast,NZ haven't really been tested in a close contest yet.

10/10/2011 at 13:13

Back to coaching corner and looking ahead to the first semi.  (I don't think I did too bad on the last prediction - Ireland did try to play it tight through O'Gara and the back-row, but the Welsh tactics forced them to try to get out wider to make gains.  Brilliant judgment by Gatland.  Strangely, I'm going to propose that he took his inspiration from the play of Gavin Henson in his last twenty minutes against the English before he went off.  He always tackled in close to the breakdown and low down at the ankles.  For all his issues, he was a fearless tackler.)

Now, I can't put my brain in Marc Lievremont's head.  It's simply not possible due to the amount of crap in there already.  So I'm going to be controversial instead.  Hook to start at number 10.  Why?  Because the French don't have a 9-10 combination.  They might, being not unintelligent players, determine that they need to target Jamie Roberts.  Hook inside him suddenly raises a doubt that they're targetting the wrong place to stop the line breaks.  I also fancy seeing North drop into the full-back position on offense, also targetting the line-break off the inside pass at that 9-10 axis.

Luckily we're no longer in the position we were a few years back where England were able to spare a flanker to do a job on Jamie.  There's no way you'd spare a flanker with the likes of Warburton and Faletau carrying ball.  And I do think that this Welsh team are more capable of dealing with tactical changes on the pitch than some of their forebears.

What is also interesting is that France are apparently naming a team on Tuesday, and giving Warren a whole two days to figure out who he needs to counter it.

Australia - New Zealand?  I think Aus are going to rely on Pocock to run it into the 10 channel, but the AB back row are just too good for that.  It may just turn into a kicking contest as Aus try to pin them back.

It seems strange that though the ABs haven't really been tested yet, that they have so many injuries and niggles.  Is this because of their season only recently ending?  Would they be fit enough to endure a tight 80 minute game if they ever get one?

10/10/2011 at 13:30
nice summary of Welsh options there ratzer.

I'm not sure that Gatland will change the starting line-up against France bit as you say with them declaring their hand early it might give him a few options to look at. one thing he needs to look at is France's ability to counterattack quickly with some quick runners. they need to stop France doing that and the best way is to starve them of the ball.

they can match France in the scrum and lineout but I think the Welsh back row need to attack the no 10 (whoever they pick) with ball in hand and suck the French back row in and create some holes. they also need to stop Harinordiquey going forward - he was good on Saturday.

the other thing we need to cutout is giving turnovers and penalties away - still too much of that but better than it used to be
10/10/2011 at 13:57

I wonder if ML is actually picking the team or if they're deciding amongst themselves?

He's already starting on his new identity - he's shaved off all his hair and grown a hideous moustache!

10/10/2011 at 18:10

Well done wales, best team done.

Ireland - Ogara had a wretched first half.  Defensively Ireland wernt as good as they have been. Darcy went awol twice during a couple of  wales tries.  For the Phillips, try Darcy was gazing into midfield as Phillips was measuring up the corner flag.  I probably woke up the whole street I was shouting so much at Darcy.  Would he listen?  Of course not.

This isnt sour grapes. I thought Ireland were less than could be.  But even if had been at full intensity I did think Wales had the game to win.

Wales look good.  Played with intensity and discipline. (Except when Shane went headless in own 25 and gave Ireland a penalty in front of the posts.)
Despite tipping NZ to win I would be happy to see them beaten - esp by a 6N team.  Wales in this form have a better chance of beating NZ than Ireland.  If Ireland had won I dont think they could sustain it over the two hard games in two weeks.

Eng/France - nice to see les Bleus remember where they come from. Eng looked very poor.

Aus/SA - Pat Pocock vs the boks. In many areas of the game SA  were far far  better, glad they lost as I dont likethey way they play the games. Kick the ball high and send the big boys after it.

NZ/Arg - watched in the company of a Kiwi - he was very worried.  Well done the gauchos.  NZ seem to be unlucky with No. 10s - bad time for them to play Aus

10/10/2011 at 18:42
And England must keep Johnson. Absolutely. No question. Ideally appoint him coach for life.
10/10/2011 at 22:09

So, an Englishman, an Irishman and a Scotsman walk into a bar...

10/10/2011 at 23:05

(I guess you are suggesting the welshman isnt drinking because he's playing next weekend?)

 ... the Munsterman says: "Sure, I've just remembered I need to nip home for a bit to polish me Heineken Cup collection.   I'll be with you in a couple of hours. I know a shortcut tru the fields of Athenry so it'll be no time atall. "

10/10/2011 at 23:12
... the Leinsterman says: "Jaysus, why clean the bleedin' cup at all, its not like the sheep-shaggers ever get to touch the ting.  What d'ya tink, Ulsterman, d'ya tink he should clean it?
Edited: 10/10/2011 at 23:15
10/10/2011 at 23:18
... Ulsterman removes pipe from abstemious lips: "Ulster says no."
10/10/2011 at 23:28

No, I was going to say that the Scotsman ordered Whisky, the Irishman ordered Whiskey, and the Englishman is a c%^t.  But yours is quite funny. 

[*coughnojokesaboutlastfouroftheRWCinfrontoftheIrishpleasecough*]

Disagree with you on Johnson.  I think they should get Andy Robinson back.

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