New Zealand: 9th September - 23rd October
Well the best team didn't win.
Just listened to BBC radio - Rob jones and ian Robertson talking. It is clear that the referee made the right decision. Rolland didnt ruin the match. Warburton did.
My first reaction was that a yellow card would be right (despite that rediculous ITV commentary which couldnt even see anything wrong). But Rolland is a referee and has to apply the law. He did apply the law. While it mght be nice to think he has the leeway to make the call we would like to see - he doesnt. It might be hard to accept but the ref did the job he was put out on that pitch to do.
Yes, illegal tackle and red card deserved according to the commission board of the IRB which has presented the referees with explicit instructions on these tackles. Regardless of the fact there was no drive into the ground, Clerc was lifted beyond the horizontal and the tackling player made no attempt to safely bring him to ground.
Doesn't matter. The game was destroyed by a mistake with no malicious intent. That Wales managed to play so well even though their set pieces were destroyed, with France capitalising on the scrum and line-out deficits, speaks volumes for the players who remained. 14 men can't beat 15 when all else is equal. 7.5 men can't beat 8 in the scrum. A reduced line-out invites the opposition to challenge your limited options. Still S Jones should have converted the try, and Halfpenny was agonisingly short on the penalty. But had either of those gone over surely the French would have thrown everything and the évier into the last few minutes. As it was they held the Welsh at the 10yard line making a drop impossible and their discipline was superb. And the extra man really told.
We'll never know what would have happened. All we can be sure of is that the trophy is staying in the Southern hemisphere. Still, I will be supporting the French. I just don't see them having any chance at all. None at all.
But nearly all of them have gone before the citing commission and received bans of 3 weeks plus presumably because they should have been red cards in the first place.
I think it was dangerous even if it wasn't done with malice or intent. Vincent Clerc ended up landing on the back of his neck.
But it did ruin the match and I think Wales would have won if Warburton hadn't been sent off.
I forgot I'm doing a 10 mile tomorrow so I'll miss NZ v. Aus. I wonder if I can avoid the result before I get to watch the recording?
D'oh - completely forgot to set up the recording and overheard the result anyway from a car radio!
Just seen the highlights and NZ looked scarily good so I guess we're heading for a repeat of the first World Cup final. Hope that France come good and put up a decent performance, I'd hate to see a massacre
At least the ITV commentary team have calmed down a bit and are no longer calling France the worst team ever
Good luck to Wales for Friday!
My predictions were 100% wrong this weekend...
...so i predict NZ will win ...
hope that does the trick
I thought it was still a cracking game, tense right up until the final seconds, lots of close calls - like the kick from half way, should Wales have gone for the drop goal etc.
I do agree that the rule hasn't been consistently applied though.
I reckon wales will want to come out blazing against the aussies and show that they feel they deserve to be in the final - "do it for sam" mentality - i hope they do
then again genia and particularly cooper have been turd all tournament and might just turn on some magic all of a sudden not that there isn't any pressure
I have never seen a player fall apart - quite as spectacularly as Cooper - a month ago all the talk was about how he was the new superpower at 10 yet a soon as there is some pressure he flapped like a flag!
the kiwi's look awesome - even if they don't win next weekend McCaw will probably be remembered as one of the games great number 7's
i think that the way they so easily beat the French in the group stages will have put some of the millennium stadium ghosts to rest
2 great games. I really wish England could rediscover some of their previous verve and play a bit more like Australia and NZ. But that's probably hoping too much in the near future.
So disappointed for Wales (saying that as an Englishman) Just hope that NZ tear France a new one next weekend. No way France deserve to be in the final. Good thing though is that history is against them as no team has won the tournament having lost a game let alone 2.
Honestly, BDB! Next you'll be saying France are as bad as England in 2007...
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Never a red; I doubt anyone could've quibbled about a yellow, but that's ruined the game.
Have to agree there was no malicious intent but if you make daft tackles it can go badly. The ref didn't go with the spirit of the game but did go with the letter of the rules. At the end of the day they had said that they would going to clamp down on it and while it was unlucky of you make a bad tackle sometimes your going to get a red instead of a yellow. As noted some of the other tackles havn't been given cards but sometimes the ref use's better judgement. What makes Rugby better than Football is the red is always Sir so lets all move on and wait for the final.
((((hug)))) for all the wales folks out there. You've taken a monkey off your back now by getting that far in a world cup now focus on the positives and build on it. England in four years time most of your squad will be in there prime at the point go for it! Hope we beat you but mind you but go for it!
So NZ vs France? I would say NZ win but france have pulled some strainge results out whenever I'm predicted them to loss and it's starting to confuse me.
We'll have to agree to disagree, BDB
My hopes for Sunday are:
Oh well, at least Phillipe Saint-Andre is taking over after this
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