Social media - good thing or bad thing?

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15/11/2012 at 16:33

You can't read the news these days without coming across a story about someone or another that has been abused on Facebook or Twitter.

Were these tw*ats always around but had no outlet for their behaviour or are they a "new" thing, a product of social media itself?

And apart from allowing people on opposite side of the world to keep in touch with each other, are there any real benefits to any of it? I ask because I really don't see any if I'm honest. I just see platforms for waffling on interminably about yourself,  being vile to other people and wasting time.

15/11/2012 at 16:41

Perhaps it is better to be abused on twitter than in real life (assuming real life still exists)

15/11/2012 at 16:51

Surely neither is acceptable?

15/11/2012 at 16:52

via twitter it is just a disturbance of electrons............


Some people need to man up

15/11/2012 at 16:55

I wouldn't even use facebook but for one group of people, and I don't twitter at all.

I think some people's lives are taken over by it all, and that can't be good.

In the old days vile horrible people sent poison pen letters.  Twitter is just the modern version of that.  They were always there, it's just easier these days.

15/11/2012 at 16:57

I do think that people are too quick to spread "news" on twitter, as some folk who will be hearing from Lord McAlpine's lawyers are going to find out.

People do love to be the first one breaking the news!

15/11/2012 at 17:08

An internet forum (e.g. ths one) is a form of social media...

15/11/2012 at 17:08
Tom77 wrote (see)

An internet forum (e.g. ths one) is a form of social media...

and ?

15/11/2012 at 17:17

And if you think it's a bad thing, why are you here?


15/11/2012 at 17:23
I didn't say it was ?
15/11/2012 at 18:05

I generally think social media is a good thing.  Without it I would have been completely isolated from anyone I knew for the last 4 months and my life would have been hell.  Instead I had a very close circle of friends who watched out for me and made the effort to drive hundreds of miles to be with me when they detected that I needed company and a friend.

I am now making friends here, several of which I have got in contact with through social media, such as my new tri club FB page.  I guess I could ahve found these people without the internet but it would have been harder

There can be unpleasantness on social media, but I've experienced a lot more unpleasantness in real life.  There are nasty people everywhere and if you can't learn to step away from the keyboard when someone turns nasty then there doesn't seem to be much hope for you in real life.

15/11/2012 at 18:21

Inherently evil

15/11/2012 at 18:24

All forms of social media have good and bad points. The fact of the matter is that like it or not, social media is here to stay.

Anyone who abuses someone else online is subject to the same laws on defamation as a newspaper journalist would be.

I'm just going to slip in to law student mode for a moment whilst I explain. Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) gives the right to respect for private and family life, meaning that people's private business has the right to remain private, so if you publish on Twitter a comment about them that is not in the public's interest to know, especially if it turns out to be untrue, you could find yourself with a defamation case on your hands.

This is balanced out by Article 10 of the ECHR, which gives the right to freedom of expression, so if you believe that the public has a right to know about something, then you have a right to publish it, which of course also covers publication on a social media site.

The courts try to take in to account both Article 8 and Article 10 when deciding on a defamation case, as neither Article has a natural precedent over the other, but be warned that if they decide that the right to respect for private and family life over rides the right to freedom of expression in a particular case, you could find yourself in deep doo.

You have been warned! 

15/11/2012 at 18:33
Dave The Ex- Spartan wrote (see)

via twitter it is just a disturbance of electrons............


Some people need to man up

Do you really believe that? Some people have committed suicide after being hounded on social media - would you tell their loved ones they should have been able to "man up?"

Tom77 wrote (see)

An internet forum (e.g. ths one) is a form of social media...

Indeed  - but forums llike this have been around for quite a bit longer and are (arguably) well moderated. You also have be part of a certain interest group to even know that they exist in most cases.

As Mark Easton just said on the BBC - social media is completely uncivilised, he compared it to the wild west

15/11/2012 at 18:35
Yes. It is petty name calling, no more than playground rabble.

If people don't like what others are saying about hem, then stop loggin on !
15/11/2012 at 18:48

I guess it was all different before the internet, when I was hounded into attempting suicide...

15/11/2012 at 18:49

OK so people have killed themselves over some petty name calling. That's all right then.

You or I may choose not to log on Dave - I daresay we remember life before social media and aren't in thrall to it. If you were a 15 year old teenager you may not find it so easy to opt out.

15/11/2012 at 21:08

The same people who spread malicious gossip in the workplace, school etc will do so on Twitter. At best they should be ignored, at worst the rule of slander should apply ( or should that be libel? No, that involves real writing, twitter is a spoken medium really).

(edited for spelling)

Edited: 15/11/2012 at 21:08
15/11/2012 at 21:14

It might "feel" like speaking because it is so immediate but it isn't - it's writing and therefore libel.

15/11/2012 at 21:18

I'm a big fan of Twitter. Considering the sheer volume of traffic, the relatively low percentage of offensive posting (they get disproportionate coverage) is actually a positive reflection on society, I feel.

but a conversation with my nephew did open my eyes a bit to the challenges it can pose kids.

He is a wee bit awkward, and prone to being bullied. In years gone by that may have stopped at the school gates but now the pressure to impress/fit in is a 24 hour job.

Don't log on, you might say.

He doesn't. But that makes it even harder for him because it places him even further on the periphery...the 'other'.

I respect him because he just does his own thing anyway, tries not to let it get to him, but social media can make life hard for kids.

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