The law of nature....

The black and white law of nature: Strong survive. Weak die.

In modern society where there is cure for most diseases and things such as obesity and mental health issues are becoming more common...

Do we fight against the law of nature?

What is weakness and what is strength?

Black and white until you attempt to define strength and weakness.

A strong medical system means that fewer people die from diseases and the average age of the population is increasing.

A strong society means that predators are kept at bay and Humans are now top of the food chain in most global areas.

Strong charitable organisations, a benefit of a philanthropic society, mean that other strengths can be shared with at-risk populations.

What is the law of nature really?  Is it unnatural to advance science and technology when you have the intelligence that we have developed?  Are we just living in harmony with the law of nature?

Evolution doesn't care what happens to you once you've raised your children.

It makes no difference to the "law of nature" whether you live to 50 or 90. As long as you get to have grandchildren.

What is weak?  By keeping the "weak" alive you are not weakening the gene pool but strengthening it.  Species are wiped out when they become so specialised that they are unable to adapt to environmental change.  Keeping "weak" genes in the pool is a hedge against future change where the weak may become strong.

Indeed, those who are obese now, may be the ones best suited when the famine comes

The reason for obesity is man made - humans are consuming foods that they are not  built to eat.Processed foods are scientifically built and our digestion was never built to process it.Obesity is the bodies way of fighting against and showing us there is a problem. No other life form has developed changes in their foods which directly harm their species .If an animals food source dries up it dies. Human (so called intelligence) has led to nicotine addiction,drugs alochol all man made issues which will help to bring about the demise of the entire human race.Survival of the fittest is more important now than it has ever been.The people that can eat correctly and stay fit without becoming addicted to man made substances will survive,the rest are being warned on a daily basis.

Elli of the North wrote (see)

The black and white law of nature: Strong survive. Weak die.

In modern society where there is cure for most diseases and things such as obesity and mental health issues are becoming more common...

Do we fight against the law of nature?

What is weakness and what is strength?

There was a snippit on the BBC this morning about poverty in Britain, it featured a fat mother who claimed she was so poor she had to skip meals.

Are mental health problems growing? I don't think actual ones are as opposed to people being not happy with their lot. ?? Dunno...

Human beings are also becoming less immune to disease, the next generation is already showing signs of have less ability to hold off flu or ashma, so science is sometimes weakening the human race, what is the point of a cure for say cancer if at the same time we are dying from influenza.Weakness will always be found out anyway and strength will always push forward, it's no coincidence that people in poverty in modern countries are also the least optomistic, strength means you have the ability to always fight harder for what you need to survive. Poverty in countries ravaged by war and famine is obviously different but there is still a section that is strong and finds a way to survive - with or without morals.

kittenkat wrote (see)

Elli of the North wrote (see)

The black and white law of nature: Strong survive. Weak die.

In modern society where there is cure for most diseases and things such as obesity and mental health issues are becoming more common...

Do we fight against the law of nature?

What is weakness and what is strength?

There was a snippit on the BBC this morning about poverty in Britain, it featured a fat mother who claimed she was so poor she had to skip meals.

Are mental health problems growing? I don't think actual ones are as opposed to people being not happy with their lot. ?? Dunno...

That's an interesting point, but not just restricted to mental health issues but other health issues that have apparently "increased" in the last 20,30,50 years. I wonder how much is an actual increase and how much is that we are simply better at diagnosing the conditions now?

xine267 wrote (see)

kittenkat wrote (see)

Elli of the North wrote (see)

The black and white law of nature: Strong survive. Weak die.

In modern society where there is cure for most diseases and things such as obesity and mental health issues are becoming more common...

Do we fight against the law of nature?

What is weakness and what is strength?

There was a snippit on the BBC this morning about poverty in Britain, it featured a fat mother who claimed she was so poor she had to skip meals.

Are mental health problems growing? I don't think actual ones are as opposed to people being not happy with their lot. ?? Dunno...

That's an interesting point, but not just restricted to mental health issues but other health issues that have apparently "increased" in the last 20,30,50 years. I wonder how much is an actual increase and how much is that we are simply better at diagnosing the conditions now?

Yes and there is less stigma (but still some), so more people are maybe coming forward for help.

People are being kept alive much longer by medical technology, but it means that they may spend their last 10 years enduring a lot of pain or suffering. Before the advent of improved medical techniques people would have died younger, but their suffering period would have been shorter. For example, about 60 years ago pneumonia was nicknamed 'old man's friend' because it would finish him off, where as nowadays someone may suffer with dementia for 20 years.

Of course it's great that people can live longer and they can be cured of illnesses that would have killed them at one time, but living to 100 doesn't necesarily mean having a good quality of life.

kittenkat wrote (see)

Elli of the North wrote (see)

The black and white law of nature: Strong survive. Weak die.

In modern society where there is cure for most diseases and things such as obesity and mental health issues are becoming more common...

Do we fight against the law of nature?

What is weakness and what is strength?

There was a snippit on the BBC this morning about poverty in Britain, it featured a fat mother who claimed she was so poor she had to skip meals.

Are mental health problems growing? I don't think actual ones are as opposed to people being not happy with their lot. ?? Dunno...

I saw the BBC news and heard the comment about missing meals and my first reaction was that she couldn't have missed many in her life.  That is the strange think about poverty today, prior to probably the last 30 years poor people were thin and well off people were likely to carry extra pounds and in the world's poorest countries this is still the same.  Today in the western world this situation has just about reversed with well off people much more likely to at a size and weight we would all class as good and many less well off likely to be overweight.

There is a curious theme here -  that what humans do is not part of nature.

I doubt that it is very easy to apply the idea  'survival of the fittest' to the current situation and work out what will be 'fittest' in the future.

'Survival of the fittest' gets understood only in retrospect.

Western world survival of the fittest...