The UK today.

Has it gone to the dogs?

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10/10/2012 at 16:58
ghost of kittenkat wrote (see)

(Just posting again to unsibscribe from the mail feed)

As you were.

 You can do that without posting - just click on "stop following" or whatever it says.

seren nos wrote (see)
Wilkie wrote (see)

If they were paid a decent salary, with no allowance for expenses, there would be no expenses to fiddle.

As LB says, make it an exclusive contact - no outside directorship or consultancies - and pay a decent salary to attract good people.

they would still do favours for their mates and pick upp the consultancies after they leave..

the banking industry paid big salaries to their top guys..............and that worked out well didn't it.....

Some people in all jobs will do favours for cronies, and expect (and get) favours in return.  It's human nature.

What do you suggest instead?  Continuing with the current system?

Edited: 10/10/2012 at 16:58
10/10/2012 at 17:18

i havent read the rest of the thread but I'd say absolutely not.

there has never been a better time to be alive than now.

10/10/2012 at 17:40
Could we not find someone with no mates and make them PM ?
10/10/2012 at 17:41

Of course, all this is tempered by the fact the Tories are dismantling the health service, workplace protection, the welfare system and a host of other things that protect the weakest in society.

10/10/2012 at 17:47
Might as well slit my wrists now then Eh Peter ?
10/10/2012 at 17:49

Be my guest

10/10/2012 at 17:52
Hope the NHS get here in time
10/10/2012 at 18:06
Although the NHS has been going down hill since Caroline Flint stopped being minister.. Damn she had great legs
LIVERBIRD    pirate
10/10/2012 at 19:34
Wilkie wrote (see)

If they were paid a decent salary, with no allowance for expenses, there would be no expenses to fiddle.

As LB says, make it an exclusive contact - no outside directorship or consultancies - and pay a decent salary to attract good people.

I ABSOLUTELY believe that there are some terminally stupid people being paid too much in some jobs but equally I am sick to DEATH of people MOANING about other people's salaries. If you want to be a politician and change the world, stand for election. If you want a doctor's salary, work hard and train to be a doctor. If you want to sit on your arse and moan your benefits won't pay for luxuries, be thankful you're moaning in this country because if you were elsewhere you'd be starving and dying of disease.

GymAddict wrote (see)

And all our sexy sexy politicians 

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/57428000/jpg/_57428920_johann_lamont.jpg

Who on earth is THAT? And I just spat wine everywhere laughing!

10/10/2012 at 19:35
Alex Salmond
LIVERBIRD    pirate
10/10/2012 at 19:38

He is VILE. I could happily smack his f*cking head in with a salmon.

LIVERBIRD    pirate
10/10/2012 at 19:42

I have a cunning plan anyway. "Free" Scots from the shackles of Westminster (we're quite clearly oppressing the poor souls) STOP our English subsidies from travelling North, wait for them to beg for help and then invade and take the oil and oppress them all over again. But do a proper job this time and make sure they know their place and call us Sir.

 

LIVERBIRD    pirate
10/10/2012 at 19:42

Who's biting?

10/10/2012 at 19:48
Even Hadrian understood the situation !
LIVERBIRD    pirate
10/10/2012 at 19:52

I have said it before. I love Scotland. But I hate the Nationalist movement's attitude towards the union. It's turkeys voting for Christmas. Seriously Scotland, you've never had it so good.

10/10/2012 at 20:47

Let's have some balance on the original issue of this thread. Has Britain gone to the dogs?

The argument for:

1. People don't have respect for others anymore. It's all about what's in it for me?

2. People have no self respect. They have one night stands and to hell with the consequences. The social will provide them with a council house and benefits to bring up the kid that results from the aforementioned one night stand.

3. People don't take pride in their job. The y don't seem to realise that if you have a dead end job you can still take pride in the fact that you can do it well. Something that the Japanese are excellent at.

4. TV talent show contestants and Premiership footballers are seen as role models by kids.

5. Parents don't take responsibility for their children's actions. If they are called in to school because their child is misbehaving, they always try to excuse their little 'angel's' behaviour.

The argument against:

1. We have the world's best universities.

2. We have a good sense of humour in this country.

3. We don't have the death penalty. I used to be a supporter of it, but came to realise that it's wrong for the state to kill.

4. We don't let citizens carry guns with no controls as they do in America.

5. We gave the world the London 2012 Olympics and did a damn good job of it!

 Keep smiling folks. It's not all bad! 

10/10/2012 at 20:54

This country is brill.  It has me in it

10/10/2012 at 20:54

The UK Today

Has it gone to the dogs you ask ??

i think that in itself is complete fucking understatement

id like pretty much someone to tel me compared to when i was a boy

what the hell we have to be proud of

we had pride, dignity and deep respect years ago - people know were they stood, including youngsters - today i think Britain is a laughing stock

i know for one - if ever Hitler had the chance to attack again, we'd not stand a bloody chance

10/10/2012 at 21:32
Think as usual Mick you have a very jaundiced view
10/10/2012 at 21:33

LB - that lady is the leader of the labour party in Scotland.  She needs a new hairdresser - that's all I am saying.  She seems like a competent politian so far so I shouldn't mock her because she isn't the prettiest in parliament.

To be fair to the Scottish voters - when Labour got into power and didn't turn the country into a socialist utopia - they didn't know what to do and so plumped for the SNP because we all know that no-one in scotland could ever vote Tory (automatic ejection from the country).  

 

Britain today - I think probablly on balance things are as good or as bad as they always have been - just in different ways.

 

I can't compare us to the rest of Europe but certainly compared to the US we are so much more civilised and take much more care of our citizens.   I kind of think kids grow up to fast and don't have the same childhood that I had - but I am pretty sure my mother said the same thing about me when I was growing up.

TV and media - we get what we ask for - if you don't like it, don't watch it or buy it. 

 I really do not see the point of bemoaning the state of the nation - it is what we make it.

 

 

 

 

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