The United States of America.

Is it really a first world nation?

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01/07/2013 at 10:25

The United States of America claims to be a first world nation, but is it really? They're the only western nation to execute people. You can only have health care if you can afford health insurance or afford to pay for treatment out of your own pocket. The same goes for justice and higher education. Everyone gets taxed at the same rate, regardless of whether they earn £10,000 or £1,000,000 dollars a year. There's also people living there in desparate poverty. Add to this.

America still seems to have a real race problem, with blacks, gays and non-Christian religions treated as 2nd class citizens in the deep south. Also, the right to own an assault rifle seems to over ride the safety of the nation's school children. They tried to use a terrorist extradition treaty to extradite Asperger's sufferer Gary McKinnon to the states to face terrorism charges, merely for his misguided attempt to look for little green men. There's also the debacle of Guantanemo Bay.

First world nation? I don't think so.

When you take all of this in to account it would appear that America is a 2nd world nation at the best

01/07/2013 at 10:35

It's not actually true that you can only have health care if you can pay for insurance, or pay for your treatment.

There are county hospitals which treat people who can't afford to pay.

01/07/2013 at 10:49

What do you mean by "first world nation" and who makes the claim? I'm also not sure stating that the USA is the only "western" nation with the death penalty is a particularly good comment - it kind of suggests that western nations are morally superior, are we? Being taxed at the same rate regardless of income - surely that is fair and encourages people to work harder and earn more?

So which country is your first world nation?

01/07/2013 at 10:52
I suppose it depends on what criteria you use.
If, like Rickster, you just judge on the bad points of each county I'd imagine that no countries will be classed as 1st world.
01/07/2013 at 10:59

The US is far from being the only Western nation with the death penalty.  In Europe, Belarus still has it.

01/07/2013 at 11:06

1st World = freedom-loving capitalist democracies

2nd World = Commies

3rd World = poor people

 

01/07/2013 at 11:08

Japan and Singapore also have the death penalty.

01/07/2013 at 11:25

Irrelevant comments, the OP has just heard someone speaking and latched onto it, clearly not thought it through.

01/07/2013 at 11:28

The USA oprates on a system of get ahead or be trodden on. Seems to have worked pretty well for them on the whole. It's pretty much the system the world has used for 4.5 billion years until recently. How would evolution have happened if you didn't need to get to the highest branch or the next island to survive? We would all still be piles of green slime.

01/07/2013 at 11:32

The truth is, there are two Americas and they exist side by side.

 I believe someone (Gavin Esler?) once wrote a book called "The Divided States of America". It pretty well sums it up.

The more I think about what's best and worst about the place the more it fries my brain, frankly.

When I'm there I just try to enjoy the burgers and the scenery and not think too much about the politics... 

Edited: 01/07/2013 at 11:39
01/07/2013 at 12:43

America is complicated. It has the best and the worst of almost everything.

Other countries imitatation show that it is seen as the way to be. And the President seen to be the leader of the 'free world'.

It could be a force for good, and often has been so. It is a nation of, what is called sometimes, 'the first world'.

But sometimes its policies and practices stink!

01/07/2013 at 13:01
Kathy H wrote (see)

America is complicated. It has the best and the worst of almost everything.

Other countries imitatation show that it is seen as the way to be. And the President seen to be the leader of the 'free world'.

It could be a force for good, and often has been so. It is a nation of, what is called sometimes, 'the first world'.

But sometimes its policies and practices stink!

Policies, practices and, unfortunately, social attitudes of a large proportion of the population.

But, as you suggest, has some great things and great people in it's favour too.

I love America to visit, but really wouldn't want to live there.

01/07/2013 at 13:20

Well come on, enlighten us all, what do you consider to be a first world nation and why?

01/07/2013 at 14:10

Switzerland? Oh no doidn't they steal all the money from the jews in WW2? C'mon dopey head, there are no squeaky clean countries. People like (p)Rickster want to benefit from the dirty work that happens but don't have the balls to put their own big dopey head on the chopping block. 

01/07/2013 at 14:18

Andorra is pretty harmless 

01/07/2013 at 15:12

They grow a lot of tobacco in Andorra - not so harmless, after all!

01/07/2013 at 15:17

theyGet they can't grow much, Andorra isn't that big 

01/07/2013 at 15:37

Since when did dirty laundry become an indicator of a "first world" nation or otherwise?

Surely the sort of thing we should be looking at is a combination of overall living standards, healthcare, economic output, average wage, average lifespan..?

01/07/2013 at 15:47
Thats far too sensible!
01/07/2013 at 15:47

Does the third world have laundry ? 

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