I've tried texting RC but it won't send. Maybe he has a new phone number. I will see if any results are up.
2.50.42 for RC. As someone who has been doing long runs with RC, this is no surprise! He has been looking very strong and fast.
RC--Well done, brilliant running!!!!!!!
Erm, 2.51.19 now! Still good though!
Well done RC! Looks like it was good conditions for a second week on the run, hopefully it will be the same in Amsterdam next week.
SARQ, I had better not say what we were talking about after you ducked out...GBM, we planned your marathon strategy for you, but don't want to publish it in case it is different to what you have already decided on.
RC, great run. Looks like UB didn't run.
BHB/SARQ--6.45 pace until mile 20 then depending on how i feel, kick for home or hang on for dear life.
SARQ-Eric for Prime Minister?, good to see you back running, it could have been worse, you could have had a real injury
Clairster-thanks for the info. i already receive a regular e-mail from Si entries and a few others plus go on the LDWA web site.
Did one of NI's progressive runs this morning on Longendale, started off at 20min. miling and worked down to 15mm, (not run properly for 10 weeks), i seemed to be in a trance, floating along, seeing Eric and J8 go sub 2.45 and GBM sub 3 and imagined doing 4 villages and passing a group of SH's-PPP, SARQ, Eric, JMC etc. then i tripped over and came back to reality, anyway, you can dream
Sat 20 Oct - Manchester Area XC - Heaton Park - NI, RB, JMC Sun 21 Oct - Amsterdam Marathon - GBM, WITGB Sun 21 Oct - Ennerdale 50K - clairster Sun 21 Oct - Breidden Hills FR - Daz Fri 26 Oct - Woolwich Foot bridge marathon - clairster Sat 27 Oct - Snowdonia Marathon - MH, GBM, FOAR Sun 04 Nov - Tatton Half Marathon - mtbb, Jane-O, BB, RB Sun 04 Nov - crewe deja vu track marathon part II - clairster Sun 04 Nov - Clwydian Hills FR - Daz Sat 10 Nov - Manchester Area XC - Sherdley Park - NI Sun 18 Nov - Preston 10M - Daz Sun 18 Nov - Conwy Half - RB Sun 18 Nov - Ultra26 Grizedale - clairster Sat 24 Nov - McCain Cross Challenge - Liverpool - NI Sun 25 Nov - Famous Grouse - Daz, Jane-O Sat 01 Dec - Manchester Area XC - Wythenshawe Park - NI Sat 08 Dec - Broad meadow mara day 1 - clairster Sun 09 Dec - Broad meadow mara day 2 - clairster Sun 09 Dec - Stockport 10 - RB, BB Sun 16 Dec - Travellers 6 - Sun 13 Jan - Trigger FR (Marsden to Edale) - Daz Sun 20 Jan - 4 Villages Half - GBM, ES, SARQ, Poacher, BB, PPP, BT, RC, Jonah8, JMC, FOAR, TB
It also looks like this may be the finishing order (or so) for 4 Villages
Well done RC. Great improvement over the last few years. Just shows what can be achieved with a decent period of consistent injury free training. Take note GBM!
JMC--No need to take note, i'm part way through a long term plan. My aim after Amsterdam is, after a short recovery, to continue with the high mileage and to go quicker at VLM than i do this weekend. I've never done 70 mile weeks before and i've never done decent back to back marathon training plans before so i'm curious and excited about what i will be capable of by next April. Anyway, thats in the future and all that matters right now is Amsterdam. Come on!!!!!
GBM-so no decorating this week or standing at the top of ladders BUT should you have a problem and can't make Amsterdam, i'm available to take your place at short notice
Thanks for the well done comments.
Perfect conditions yesterday, so after a year of injury free training as JMC said I thought a good PB was a realistic target.
Set off just quicker than my target pace of 6.30's and entered the tunnel at mile 12 with a 6.28 av. However Garmin's don't like tunnels and with my heart rate monitor playing up I didn't have much to go off, so just ran on perceived effort but passed half way on 1:25.
Good atmosphere and support on leaving the tunnel which is more than i can say for much of the route which was sparse. Mile 18 was a steady slog up towards Sefton park and after a loop of the park it was back towards the city with a nice down hill pass the 25 mile marker and a flat half mile or so to the finish.
Not the fastest marathon but still good Pb potential.
J8 - Have you been on the Raki? 2:49 next realistic target.
PPP--I don't feel fed up/bored/insulted/feel patronised by everyones advice as i know you all mean well and i will just ignore you anyway! My planned race pace throughout most of my training plan was 6.40 which would give me 2.55. This was because i was having major back problems and it was seizing up along with my glutes, hamstrings and slowing me down towards the end of long runs. So the plan was to have 4 or 5 mins in the bank for when that happened on race day. However my back suddenly got better about 6 or 7 weeks ago so i've tweaked my plan to 6.45 pace. I know that 6.40ish to 6.45ish is neither here nor there but i'm running an ultra cautious race and going a minute slower in the first half may make all the difference in the final stages. The reason for being ultra cautious is because this is my 6th sub 3 attempt and i see no point in running any quicker than i have to in the first 20 miles in case it all goes wrong again. I know that all my previous attempts have failed due to insufficient mileage/training and not because of poor pacing but i'm just being sensible. If everything goes to plan, i have a brilliant run, feel ok at mile 20 then i will kick for home and maybe i might be able to squeeze a 2.55 something but we all know that marathons don't always go to plan so i could feel rubbish at mile 20 and be clinging on to do 2.59.59 or i could even fail completely. Another reason for being cautious (this isn't a case of getting in an excuse early or being negative or being mentally weak!) is that i've been trying to shake off a virus for a couple of weeks. Its not much of one but it is affecting me slightly when i run, snot, tight chest, coughing etc and i can be as positive as i like but its bound to have some effect on Sunday. But i'm hoping the effect it has is miniscule and that i'm currently in such good shape that i can run sub 3 even though i'm not quite feeling 100%. Right now 2.55, 2.57 and 2.59 are all sub 3 to me and i will take any of them. Then onto VLM for an attempt at a fast/silly time!
RC, well done again, your targets are spot on. Even J8 always says knock 2-3 mins off each time, so he must be on some loopy juice.
GBM, you can't really do any more and you'll only not make it if your back goes, but I have good feelings this time (I was lying every other time). You know what they say 6th time lucky
GBM-should you be running with a slight virus? did i mention i could step in with very little notice , actually from our conversations, there are no reasons why you shouldn't go sub 3, just look out for those pesky bikes, if i don't see you beforehand, Good Luck.
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