J8-thanks, somehow, i'll be sending them to their rightful owner, although got to be careful we don't compromise SH's standing in the running community-think we'll go down the "honest mistake" road. It's a remote possibility i might join you tomorrow, if not thank Matt, also what are the arrangements, time, pace etc. for tomorrow. My Piriformis problem, doesn't appear to be so, Saw Alex O'G on Wednesday, he believe it's my back giving me problems again, tightening up various muscles, but similar symptoms to piriformis, stuck a few needles in me.