things-that-are/are-not-important-to-you-on-the-internet

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09/08/2013 at 17:29
TimR wrote (see)

I think (as you've aptly demonstrated) there are a lot of people on the Internet who are willing to post nonsense without thinking or even trying to clarify what the original poster meant before leaping in jumping to conclusions. 


Substitute the two campaigners for OP and that's what you did Tim - waded in before jumping to conclusions. And you did it again with Screama's comment on similar language to a rapist.
I share Screama's point of view - a woman dares to express a point of view and you label her vitriolic and aggressive. How very dare they express their own opinions!

 

Edited: 09/08/2013 at 17:29
09/08/2013 at 18:55

The OP posted a link about death threats. Do you really think I was replying in support of people giving out death threats? My comments, I thought at the time, were regarding the general abuse that people receive when they stand up for what they feel is right. Even in the piece she is reported as "not being surprised" I'm very surprised that anyone should think I support rape or death threats and surely I didn't need to clarify my position on that.

Screama's repy "Yeah, every woman likes a rape threat Tim. WTF?" - was a pointless interjection that I realise now was to gain more attention and I should have ignored it.

Oh well. Thread derailled pointlessly...

Edited: 09/08/2013 at 18:57
09/08/2013 at 19:15

That still doesn't explain why you chose to use words such as "aggressive" and "vitriol" - examples please of where the women in question have done something to merit use of these terms.

 

...and I've no idea how you reach the conclusion that Screama was attention seeking

09/08/2013 at 19:46

Ok. Here's a leading feminist icon doing women and feminists a disservice. 

 

Germane Greer - question time.

09/08/2013 at 20:41

 Well Tim, I have to say my conclusion is the same as it was at the beginning i.e. you just don't get it but several points in no particular order: 

1. Someone calls you out over a comment about "aggressive feminists" which you made with no idea of the women under discussion. Why shouldn't I or anyone else have called you out on it? It was an uninformed, sweeping statement.

2. I never said you "support rape or called you a rapist. I merely pointed out that your use of language was unfortunate and echoes that of some of the less pleasant people in society.

3. Your remarks about feminists are sexist.  End of. You don't concede they have a point, instead they have "issues" and are being "vitriolic" which you then toned down to "tenacious" presumably because you couldn't back up the vitriol bit . Why shouldn't they bloody well be tenacious? 

4. Attention seeking? Whose attention? It's a thread among hundreds of other threads, people read it or they don't.

6. All feminists are not like Germaine Greer. In fact most are not. There are even (gasp!) male feminists.

7. I don't want you to go away, I merely suggest  the more you try to clarify your position the worse your argument comes across. You can carry on digging if you like.

 

Edited: 09/08/2013 at 20:44
09/08/2013 at 21:11

and still your contribution to the debate is to twist my words when I try to clarify them for you and make out I'm somehow back pedalling. You're still branding me sexist, which in itself is quite offensive. If you feel I'm digging myself in deeper then that's your problem not mine.

Read your very first statement to me.

Do you actually have anything constructive to say?

10/08/2013 at 00:27

So having been asked for examples of Caroline Criado-Perez and/or Stella Creasy being aggressive/vitriolic, you post a clip of Germaine Greer.  Forgive me if I'm not convinced.

 

I missed this earlier:

TimR wrote (see)

I don't know who she is or have even read any of her previous articles I just have read a few from her ilk and they blame men for every problem in their lives. 

I don't know what's wrong with them but they have some issues and by continuing as some sort of feminist warriors is agressive, not in a violent way but a tenacious way.  

but how can you conclude what ilk Caroline and Stella are from when by your own admission you know sod all about them?

Oh no! Women fighting for what they believe in and showing tenacity rather than giving way to the obviously more important men. There must be something wrong with them, it's the only conclusion. If you're not sexist then why would you say there's something wrong with women who show tenacity?

Edited: 10/08/2013 at 00:27
10/08/2013 at 10:53

Why are all feminists and lesbians so unattractive? 

10/08/2013 at 18:23

Not a great PC view there Lardarse but in the main true, do they try to look less than feminine, or is it the other way around?, good question

10/08/2013 at 19:05
TimR wrote (see)

and still your contribution to the debate is to twist my words when I try to clarify them for you and make out I'm somehow back pedalling. You're still branding me sexist, which in itself is quite offensive. If you feel I'm digging myself in deeper then that's your problem not mine.

Read your very first statement to me.

Do you actually have anything constructive to say?

 

I'm trying to be constructive by getting you to see what your comments as a man look like to women. If you consider that "combative", tough. 

What was it you said about being expected to "nod sagely" at the pronouncements of feminists? Aren't you expecting the same thing - not to be challenged about your throwaway comments ? Because that's the way it sounds to me.

By the way, XFR Bear has asked you a question twice. Why haven't you answered it?

 

 

 

Edited: 10/08/2013 at 19:33
10/08/2013 at 19:40
"Why are all feminists and lesbians so unattractive?"

There should be a word for this, when somebody says something both shit and predictable on the internet - "predictashit", or maybe "preshitable".
10/08/2013 at 19:44

I think you're right  JT141.

Lardarse likes to troll though, don't spoil his childish fun

10/08/2013 at 20:17
It's a lifestyle choice I suppose.
10/08/2013 at 20:47

I bet Lardarse is devastatingly handsome.

10/08/2013 at 20:55

He probably thinks he is!

10/08/2013 at 21:40

And here it is.. todays thread where screamapillar has to try and force someone to see her point of view.

glad its just the internet and I dont have to listen to her droning on in real life, voice like a fog horn no doubt.

 

10/08/2013 at 22:18
Lå®Ð䮧€ wrote (see)

Why are all feminists and lesbians so unattractive? 

This really needs scientific evidence to prove or disprove so I just did a google image search for "lesbians" - it's fair to say you were proved wrong.

edit - mostly!

Edited: 10/08/2013 at 22:20
11/08/2013 at 07:14
Miffi wrote (see)

And here it is.. todays thread where screamapillar has to try and force someone to see her point of view.

glad its just the internet and I dont have to listen to her droning on in real life, voice like a fog horn no doubt.

 

Nice to see you Miffi. Have you actually got anything to add to the debate about feminism, or sexism or did you just come here to carp?  

 

Great research Popsider, it must have been tough, I admire your dedication!  

Edited: 11/08/2013 at 07:32
11/08/2013 at 11:19
kittenkat wrote (see)

I got completely arsed at a party last night and came home with a chicken leg.

Nothing wrong with that as long as the chicken was dead at the time. If it's hopping around this morning on one leg I suggest you might have some explaining to do.

11/08/2013 at 13:16
Miffi wrote (see)

And here it is.. todays thread where screamapillar has to try and force someone to see her point of view.

glad its just the internet and I dont have to listen to her droning on in real life, voice like a fog horn no doubt.

 

It's all quite clever really it starts:

Tim: "My dog is brown."

Screama: "Ah. So all dogs are brown then."

Tim: "No, what I said was I have a brown dog, some people have black dogs."

Screma: "So, now you're back pedalling. You obviously hate brown dogs and want to see all brown puppies drowned."

Tim: - wanders off to find rational debate regarding the original subject somewhere else. 

Edited: 11/08/2013 at 13:18
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