UKIP

Can the BBC handle people who speak their minds?

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18/05/2013 at 07:13

Ukip. Jesus Christ. Seriously? Who the hell is voting for these clowns? 

I no longer have a political persuasion. I used to be a lib dem. but seeing as they don't exist anymore (Vince cable is THE biggest disappointment in my life), I now will oscillate  between voting tactically or the greens. Or monster raving loony party. 

Edited: 18/05/2013 at 07:15
18/05/2013 at 08:29

People like you are voting for those clowns , quite clearly. People who don't feel any of the main parties represent them. 

18/05/2013 at 09:21
Podifer wrote (see)

But all Farage and his lot seem to do is bang on about what they are 'against', they never really seem to say what they are actually 'for'. They just like shit stirring for the sake of it.

This is what the Liberals have done for many years, just comment on the negative aspects of other's policies, look around you in work you will se eit every day, nothing to contribute just pulling away at others.

Podifer wrote (see)

But all Farage and his lot seem to do is bang on about what they are 'against', they never really seem to say what they are actually 'for'. They just like shit stirring for the sake of it.

 

kaffeeg wrote (see)

Ukip. Jesus Christ. Seriously? Who the hell is voting for these clowns? 

I no longer have a political persuasion.. 

Totally agree with Sussex by not exercising your franchise to vote you are allowing these in by the back door. Recently a Councillor said that we should end the lives of disabled children like a Farmer deals with lambs, he resigned and then guess what was voted back in, not by idiots who supported him, but by others like yourself who cannot be bothered to vote.

Evil happens when good people stand by and watch, get yourselves motivated and active, at least to vote against what is wrong

18/05/2013 at 10:45

BBC Radio Scotland were handling him just fine on Friday morning, until he hung up on them after throwing several accusations at the Scottish people and consequently being unable to argue his case on any level. 

The man's a joke.  Unfortunately he's a joke who appears to be gathering the kind of Daily Mail/Sun readership and BNP wannabes who think voting for him is some sort of protest.

18/05/2013 at 10:45

I don't think they are a party. Can anyone name one other member of UKIP? Farage is running as a one man band. Sooner or later the mask will slip and people will see what a nobber he and his party are. People should beware the "maverick" - see also Boris Johnson. Mussolini started out that way and that didn't end well.

18/05/2013 at 11:28
Runnin man wrote (see)
 Recently a Councillor said that we should end the lives of disabled children like a Farmer deals with lambs, he resigned and then guess what was voted back in, not by idiots who supported him, but by others like yourself who cannot be bothered to vote.

 

Well not really - he must have been voted back in by people supporting him.

In the case of UKIP it's perfectly valid for people to vote for them as a protest over certain issues if they feel the main parties do not offer any choice on those issues.   It doesn't really matter that they aren't a proper party - they are really the only way for people who feel strongly about Europe or immigration to voice those opinions politically.   I'd suggest the Greens are very similar in that they garner most of their vote from people for on the basis of quite a narrow section of policy - their environmental ones - the rest of their policies would probably divide their supporters quite a bit.   

18/05/2013 at 11:37

I'm not quite sure what a faschist is but when Farage goes to Scotland to debate the issues and he is stopped from doing so physically then I think that tag could fit. "You are not welcome here" shouted a protester. Since when do we need permission from anyone to go to their city? Nigel Farage has a democratic right to be there. So are people who seek to deny him that right faschistic? Like Nig says everyone knows it but nobody is saying it.

18/05/2013 at 11:44
Runnin man wrote (see)
 

 

kaffeeg wrote (see)

Ukip. Jesus Christ. Seriously? Who the hell is voting for these clowns? 

I no longer have a political persuasion.. 

Totally agree with Sussex by not exercising your franchise to vote you are allowing these in by the back door. Recently a Councillor said that we should end the lives of disabled children like a Farmer deals with lambs, he resigned and then guess what was voted back in, not by idiots who supported him, but by others like yourself who cannot be bothered to vote.

Evil happens when good people stand by and watch, get yourselves motivated and active, at least to vote against what is wrong

 

If you read Kafeeg's post properly you'll see that's not what was said at all.

18/05/2013 at 11:46

Exactly, I'm no fan of UKIP but their main policies are probably in line with what a substantial minority if not a majority of people in this country believe.

Tommygun2    pirate
18/05/2013 at 11:56

The thing that seems to escape the main parties and some of you on here is the more you pour scorn and derision on UKIP the more the disenfranchised are inclined to vote for them. They are seen as the only party that meets with some peoples ideas and thoughts. Whether that is right or wrong its gaining momentum.

I live in a tory strong hold and at the local elections UKIP gain a huge surge in support and had 9 county councillor's elected. With labour and the Libdem coming a very poor 3rd and 4th.  I did not vote for them but lots of my friends both form tory and labour supports voted UKIP.

I say ignore them at your peril.

oh and I do like the way Nigel sticks to fingers up at the establishment

18/05/2013 at 11:57

SR, he wasn't stopped, physically or otherwise.  He didn't like the protests that were going on outside his chosen pap site, which were admittedly vehement in their opinions, so he chose to run away rather than make his point in that pub.  And as for "you're not welcome here", how many other politicians have been subject to such comments - all over the world, including in their own constituencies?  That is a poor argument I'm afraid as it's the nature of politics.  I rather suspect you're using this thread as a means of winding people up, so aside from what follows, I'll take no more part in it, as you're clearly more interested in an argument than a discussion.

Anyway, the question asked was "Can the BBC handle people who speak their minds?" and in this case the answer is a resounding, yes. The y tried a discussion with him, he lost the plot, hung up on R Scotland, then huffed and puffed and lost his argument again on R4. BBC handled themselves professionally, Farage handled himself in his usual desperate manner, and lost.

19/05/2013 at 12:03

I think it is quite frightening for the left and the BBC. They live under an assumption that they are the good guys, but see that a substantial part of the electorate are losing patience with the coalition government, not for being too right wing, but for not being right wing enough. Under that circumstance what hope is there for Labour?

19/05/2013 at 13:52

The top issues for most are the economy, immigration and crime - Labour have failed on all 3 of these in their last spell in office ...

19/05/2013 at 18:38
Runnin man wrote (see)
Podifer wrote (see)

But all Farage and his lot seem to do is bang on about what they are 'against', they never really seem to say what they are actually 'for'. They just like shit stirring for the sake of it.

This is what the Liberals have done for many years, just comment on the negative aspects of other's policies, look around you in work you will se eit every day, nothing to contribute just pulling away at others.

Podifer wrote (see)

But all Farage and his lot seem to do is bang on about what they are 'against', they never really seem to say what they are actually 'for'. They just like shit stirring for the sake of it.

 

kaffeeg wrote (see)

Ukip. Jesus Christ. Seriously? Who the hell is voting for these clowns? 

I no longer have a political persuasion.. 

Totally agree with Sussex by not exercising your franchise to vote you are allowing these in by the back door. Recently a Councillor said that we should end the lives of disabled children like a Farmer deals with lambs, he resigned and then guess what was voted back in, not by idiots who supported him, but by others like yourself who cannot be bothered to vote.

Evil happens when good people stand by and watch, get yourselves motivated and active, at least to vote against what is wrong

Errr, where did you get that I don't vote?! I just said I had no affiliation to any political party. I'm disillusioned. However, I always vote. Not only that, but I also hassle everyone I know to vote. Perhaps you might want to read my post properly?

27/07/2013 at 18:31

Going back to the OP, you sure as hell can't.

However, I have noticed how corrupt and depraved the BBC are also... Deeeeerrrrrh!

28/07/2013 at 08:48

Farage has already done the country a great service by getting the main parties to agree to a referendum. Without the surge in support for UKIP this would never have happened. At least now we will have the opportunity to regain our sovereignty as an independent nation and to remove ourselves from the distant, unaccountable, undemocratic, and unnecessary layer of bureaucracy that is the EU. (You can probably guess which way I am going to vote).

For those that say that UKIP has no policies other than the anti-EU stance you could always check out their website.

28/07/2013 at 08:59
Johnny Blaze wrote (see)

Nigel Farage is a one man band tosser and only idiots vote for his "party".

 

Not the most constructive of arguments. I seem to remember Cameron using similar language against them. That backfired on him and now he has to go to all the trouble of attempting to re-negotiate our terms of membership. Good luck with that Dave, we await the outcome with interest.

28/07/2013 at 11:56

UKIP will profit with the electorate, because on the main issues that concern the public (immigration, welfare etc) the Govt has to act in the uniform PC way which overrides the thinking of your average man in the street. Effectively this means the politicians and the decision makers believe they know better than the man in the street so they don't have to do what he wants. Nigel Farage has simply made the right noises to indicate he would give the elctorate more of what they want.

The main parties have some serious thinking to do in order to reclaim this.   

31/07/2013 at 13:37

UKIP..........one begins to understand just how Hitler managed to get into power.

seren nos    pirate
31/07/2013 at 13:44
jelly bean wrote (see)

UKIP..........one begins to understand just how Hitler managed to get into power.

just what i was thinking JB......its scary

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