What do you think of this?

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06/09/2009 at 19:52

How he get there in the first place.....will it work

06/09/2009 at 19:59
Oh no no no - to link hitler to sex is just wrong in so many ways. It's kind of trivialising a monster using his image like this.
06/09/2009 at 20:00
Nice tits!
06/09/2009 at 20:02
I thought it was quite sexy till the last bit - eurgh!
06/09/2009 at 20:04

Well wasn't expecting that to happen!!

06/09/2009 at 20:08

I didn't have any sound on - so not sure if there was a voice-over and if it made any difference.

I can't quite work out who it's aimed at.

Is it the person with aids - trying to encourage them not to have unprotected sex to prevent other people getting it? In which case, suggesting that they are on a par with Hitler might not be the right approach - it does strike me as a little extreme.

Is it aimed at the uninfected - in which case I'm not sure what message they'd be getting from this. Don't have sex with someone with a hitler moustache and you'll be fine? You can "see" if someone has aids from their apperance?

Frankly, I'm rather confused and don't know what to think about it.

06/09/2009 at 20:51

Yes, great tits but I 'm guessing that most aids cases aren't communicated between six pack hunks and supermodels with big tats.

But then showing two blokes going at it would be un-pc, although trivialising the image of the most hellish mass murderer in history is apparently ok.

The genius who came up with this should be sacked and his fee shouldn't be paid (can you tell I'm in a bad mood).

Unless this is a wind-up, in which case it is just pure bad taste.

06/09/2009 at 20:56

A little too short for masturbation purposes, but I'd be interested to know if the female as done 'other' work!

debbo    pirate
06/09/2009 at 21:04
apart from anything else, it isn't correct

it is HIV that is the killer, AIDS is the collection of illnesses that are associated with HIV

I guess this is a minor point, but advertising should at very least be educational

that doesn't really teach anyone anything
seren nos    pirate
06/09/2009 at 21:10
Johnny Blaze wrote (see)

Yes, great tits but I 'm guessing that most aids cases aren't communicated between six pack hunks and supermodels with big tats.

But then showing two blokes going at it would be un-pc, although trivialising the image of the most hellish mass murderer in history is apparently ok.

The genius who came up with this should be sacked and his fee shouldn't be paid (can you tell I'm in a bad mood).

Unless this is a wind-up, in which case it is just pure bad taste.


JB.........the fact is that most people accept that sex between two men has a chance of infection...................

what a lot of people still ignore is that they can get infected by having straight sex...............which is how the majority of infections are caught now...........

but I don't think this video is any good............

debbo    pirate
06/09/2009 at 21:13
it's a bit like that iceberg ad from the 80s - completely uninformative and useless

and JB - Seren is right - heterosexual spread is very common because people think it won't happen to them because they're not gay or african or an IV drug user
Nam
06/09/2009 at 21:19
HIV transmission route stats for the UK : http://www.avert.org/uk-transmission-route.htm
Nam
06/09/2009 at 21:19
and I think the ad is shit as well.
Nam
06/09/2009 at 21:28

The reason AIDS charities dislike this ad is because they feel it criminalises people who are HIV positive.  i.e. Hitler knew what he was doing and willfully killed others.  They feel that using this analogy in this ad with HIV will further stigmatise people by creating the impression that they willfully infect others.

If anyone wants to know more about the complexeties of criminal transmission, here you go http://www.avert.org/criminal-transmission.htm but we know that most infection is transmitted by people who until they became symptomatic, had no idea themselves that they were positive.

A much stronger ad would have been an ad depicting a perfectly normal happy couple where one becomes ill and finds out they are HIV positive and having to trawl through their address book to let exes know that they better get tested...

06/09/2009 at 21:37

I'm well aware that AIDS can be transmitted between heterosexual couples, thank you. In South Africa 25% of the population is HIV positive and erm, they're not all gay.

I was drawing attention to the fact (and it is a fact) that aids was and is more prevalent amongst homosexuals than heterosexuals, and yet ads seemingly never draw attention to this.

Nam
06/09/2009 at 21:46

Much of the 80s propaganda was aimed at gay men.  However much of it is targeted at gay clubs, massage places etc etc by means of outreach by dedicated public health staff, leafletting etc as opposed to country wide TV ads.

Current UK stats show it's pretty much 50/50 with heterosexual infection slightly outnumbering gay transmission, however it's actually not as clear cut as that as there is a considerable number of men who identify themselves as primarily straight (rather than bisexual) yet have gay 'experiences' from time to time, which is why "in the field" we now refer to "men who have sex with men" as opposed to "gay men" as the first way outnumber the latter.

06/09/2009 at 21:50

But the population isn't split 50/50 gay/heterosexual so the prevalence must be higher amongst gay people. plus gay men have sex in ways which make infection more likely. 

I always say, "Oil the squeakiest wheel first"

Nam
06/09/2009 at 22:00

Different "campaigns" work for different social groups...  massive TV ads don't work on injecting drug users for example etc.  Many campaigns outside of the mainstream do take place, you just wouldn't know about it unless you frequented gay clubs, needle exchanges etc.

The number of heterosexually acquired HIV infections diagnosed in the UK has risen hugely over the last 15 years.  It's a curve which needs to be turned because the projection really doesn't look pretty. 

The "squeaky wheel" argument is flawed in many ways...  many men who have sex with men also have sex with women.  Women who then have children etc.   As much as people would like to think that these matters are black white, they are not.  This is no longer just a problem of gay men, IV drug users and past recipients of blood products and the sooner people get that the better.

Edited: 06/09/2009 at 22:01
06/09/2009 at 22:09

Not impressed in the slightest. No idea who the ad is aimed at - certainly won't be shown on prime time tv!

So much for a move towards understanding that HIV/AIDS is an illness and not something people deserve as a consequence of undesirable behaviour.

Does seem to demonise HIV/AIDS - is it implying that positive people are wilfully infecting others? Why use Hitler??? Not a clue what the idea was behind that... seriously, whoever thought Hitler porn was a good idea has some serious mental health issues

AndrewSmith    pirate
06/09/2009 at 22:15
So, am I missing something, did Hitler have AIDS?
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