When is a Chav not a Chav?

just a random thought. . .

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20/02/2013 at 09:46

following on from another post and a comment made about people with tattoos being chavs (thanks DF3 ), It made me start thinking what constitutes a chav? I mean most of us can spot them when we see them, but is there a series of definitive characteristics? or are there degrees of chav-ness?
Surely none of us here could be included?
but funnily enough - Wikipedia (who's word of course is gospel ) says "The stereo type of a chav includes wearing branded designer sportswear. Stereotypical attire might be accompanied by some form of gold jewellery, otherwise termed 'bling' "
Hmm - sounds like a load of runners after finishing a race (branded sportswear, medal. . . .)
so is it attitude? IQ? clothing? or a whole smorgasbord of stuff?

 

 

20/02/2013 at 11:02

we don't have chavs. we have neds

it is all of those things but chiefly a complete disregard for societal norms of behaviour. they are like modern-day outlaws

I was in a sports shop the other day and two neds came in. I was queuing quietly to buy socks and had been gazing at a pogo stick near the till. Of course one of the neds immediately leapt on it and started boinging around the shop, knocking boxes flying and causing general mayhem.

I'll wager that he was doing what deep down I and the other people in the queue would probably have wanted to do, were we not tied down by normal standards of protocol. In short, he didn't care what anyone thought, he did what he wanted. Part of me wishes that was me. Most of me doesn't though.

20/02/2013 at 11:04

I think some people here think a chav is anyone who is working class and/or a teenager.  My definition would be a little more specific but to be honest it's been done to death.

20/02/2013 at 11:06

Ah, that'll be scotland then?
itsnt that scottish slang for 'hooligan' or something?

20/02/2013 at 11:06

non-educated delinquent

20/02/2013 at 11:08

interesting where the term comes from, apparantly it comes from the romany for 'child'? (chavi). not sure if thats true but most of them seems to act like 2 year olds

 

20/02/2013 at 11:09
the dude abides wrote (see)

non-educated delinquent

nice one!

20/02/2013 at 11:19
Max's Mum wrote (see)

It made me start thinking what constitutes a chav? 


Someone who messes about with Play Stations ?

20/02/2013 at 12:20

Dunno, Gypsies are a different thing altogether surely? chavs tend to be more urban and affiliated to lonsdale?

20/02/2013 at 12:21
Dave The Ex- Spartan wrote (see)
Max's Mum wrote (see)

It made me start thinking what constitutes a chav? 


Someone who messes about with Play Stations ?

I know a couple of university graduates who might disagree with you

20/02/2013 at 12:23

Or was that a reference to the Playstation 4 thread!

20/02/2013 at 12:23

For me it's a way of supercilious people to define those they think are beneath them. Horrible word.

20/02/2013 at 12:33

Council House And Violent

Just one definition I heard somewhere.

 

20/02/2013 at 12:37
Chavvi was used in the Sham 69 song Hersham Boys. Country or Gypsy slang for a boy. Been around for years. The Daily Mail borrowed the term and changed it's meaning.
20/02/2013 at 12:39
Cheltenham Average, has also been claimed as the root
20/02/2013 at 12:53
Peter Collins wrote (see)

For me it's a way of supercilious people to define those they think are beneath them. Horrible word.

'for' I meant, not 'of'...

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20/02/2013 at 12:57
Peter Collins wrote (see)
Peter Collins wrote (see)

For me it's a way of supercilious people to define those they think are beneath them. Horrible word.

'for' I meant, not 'of'...

agree

20/02/2013 at 13:05

I just think it is a word that people use about other people they think are beneath them - growing up they would have been skins, mods or punks.

20/02/2013 at 13:05

I agree with Peter Collins too. I don't use that word because I think it's a way of sneering at a whole group of people. When I was at school we had words for different groups which could be loosely mapped onto social class but were mainly related to fashion and music preferences (the nearest equivalent for the branded-sportswear wearers was 'townie', as contrasted with 'grungers' who were more alternative). There wasn't that horrible class-based snobbery that you get with the word 'chav'. Yuck.

20/02/2013 at 13:11

According to Plan B, we should not use the term 'Chav' and apparently it is usage of this word that started the riots 2 Augusts ago.........Yeah, right - whatever!

I thought the riots were started by groups of kids who think they are entitled to a living and think it's ok to steal, inflict violence and generally engage in anti social behaviour......

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