Women can choose Caesarean section

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24/11/2011 at 12:53

of course not, it's not alright at all, that is not what I'm saying. I'm was discussing the fact that it's a certain age group that seem to go towards c-section out of choice, not talking about c-sections that have happened because of medical interventions. women who have had to have c-sections due to medical interventions seem to be of the bigger nature, or also carrying multiple births which is something they can't actually help.

but why are these soon to be mothers getting so fat while pregnant in the first place? lack of education on what food should be consumed while pregnant and which should be avoided. the obese seem to be in the poorer class.

I know that during the labour government years ( that's when i was pregnant) there was a healthy vouchers given to expecting mothers for themselves and their families to encourage them to eat healthy, that vouchers could only be redeemed for fruit, veg and milk. this has now been abolished

I would rather have my tax money spent of educating, our even reward scheme's for expecting mothers to keep within a healthy weight throughout their pregnancy than having to pay for specialist equipment for women who have placed themselves in danger becasue of over eating.

24/11/2011 at 13:01
Andreia wrote (see)

but why are these soon to be mothers getting so fat while pregnant in the first place? lack of education on what food should be consumed while pregnant and which should be avoided. the obese seem to be in the poorer class.

i suspect we're talking here about the ones that are fat before getting pregnant.

Dave The Ex- Spartan    pirate
24/11/2011 at 13:08
But how do they get pregnant if they are that fat ???? 
24/11/2011 at 13:12
they even give IVF to obese women you know.
Dave The Ex- Spartan    pirate
24/11/2011 at 13:15
Ah.. that or incredibly desperate men
24/11/2011 at 13:16
or beer.
Dave The Ex- Spartan    pirate
24/11/2011 at 13:18
Yeah.. But the amount of beer required would leave most guys incapable surely ?
24/11/2011 at 13:20

probably yes although we might be getting slightly off-topic here.

but it appears from the relevant information that some fat women do actually have sex.

Dave The Ex- Spartan    pirate
24/11/2011 at 13:34
I'm married.... So I wouldn't know
24/11/2011 at 21:34
seren nos wrote (see)
but for a young mother..........we all hear stories of 24 hours and more in labour in agony.......and stories of having our lady bits cut open with a knife or ripped open by a babies head.......of pooing ourselves when we were pushing........ but you rarely hear stories of bad c sections.......just heard one above ......but you rarely hear the horror stories............ so for a pregnant woman .which sounds better...........even though its not the best thing medically........

I think there might be something in that. Natural birth per se doesn't worry me, but you hear absolute horror stories coming out of maternity wards nowadays. At least with a C-section you know that you have to have a team around you and you're not going to be left to give birth in a corridor.

That said I really can't see myself electing for a C-section. I'd rather get the grandparents to have a whip around for a private midwife! When the NHS is so overstretched I'm not really sure it can be justified. 

I'd be interested in a good study on women's motivations and the reasons behind the rise in C-sections. I really don't buy the Heat theories... 

Edited: 24/11/2011 at 21:42
24/11/2011 at 21:41
Vaginal birth hurts but for me was ok I have four kids, one born in USA where I was a freak for   having no epidural, one born at home by mistake with no pain relief,  twins who were induced with gas and air after pre-eclampsia for 3 and a bit weeks. Based on a key hole gall bladder removal recentlywhich  is agony, child birth was  a sinch by comparison.
24/11/2011 at 21:46
Only fleetingly read your comments but my first born was a c-section, emergency after being induced (2 weeks overdue) which was I can say a horrible experience.... my second was a natural birth after insisting that i wouldn't be induced no matter what happened, the consultant expected that I was going to request a C-section and got arsey with me... soon put him in his place... natural birth is not nice, but niether is the horrible experience I had being induced then waiting 48 hours in 'false labour' before eventually having a section... Second birth was also a 'proceedure' as had a vanteuse (sp) and was cut from front to back... am am over 30, far from obsese and definitely not lazy, last one was still over 30 hours
25/11/2011 at 08:49

Two children (8lb15oz and 9lb9oz), 'normal' delivery, no pain relief of any description. What's the problem?

25/11/2011 at 09:30
Womble wrote (see)

Two children (8lb15oz and 9lb9oz), 'normal' delivery, no pain relief of any description. What's the problem?


similar for me. no problem at all.

my wife was screaming a bit though.

25/11/2011 at 11:11
The article I read said that c sections would be given to women who were very afraid of labour - the sort who are so phobic that they will actually terminate a pregnancy rather than go through labour. Whilst one could argue that the money involved could be better spent on improving the labour experience for everyone (training and employing more midwives, for instance), it is rather different from giving sections on demand.
seren nos    pirate
25/11/2011 at 11:15
so i take it you have to ask for the c-section in the first few months of pregnancy and show signs of a phobia for this to be allowed.........can't see many thinking of it that early on........
the arguement wouldn't work if you were 8 months pregnant and realised you were carrying a whopper
so its a big fuss about nothing...........
only a handleful of these would be done a year.........
25/11/2011 at 11:16
Oh Womble, for some reason I always though you were a boy. I do apologise.
kittenkat    pirate
25/11/2011 at 11:19
skotty wrote (see)
Womble wrote (see)

Two children (8lb15oz and 9lb9oz), 'normal' delivery, no pain relief of any description. What's the problem?


similar for me. no problem at all.

my wife was screaming a bit though.

Lol!!
27/11/2011 at 14:14
I is definitely a girl womble, otherwise MrFrog has a problem......
27/11/2011 at 14:30
It sounds from the comments that a few of us on here have had horrid c-section experiences.

I had an emergency one with my son and it was probably the most painful and terrifying experience of my life. In retrospect I think something went wrong as I have had many chats with ladies since AND had subsequent abdominal surgery (which I swear was a piece of cake in comparison).

For my daughter I refused the offered section on the grounds that 24 hours of pain could not be as bad as the pain I went through first time.

Okay so an assisted VD wasn't great either (forceps - thank you anaesthetists everywhere for the blessing that is the epidural) but it was STILL a lot better than a section.


I wonder if folks choosing a section really understand what they are letting themselves in for - or if I just had a very bad experience.
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