Yet more changes...
Just seen entries are open, but there is now a 5p.m. cut off, no early starts and no walker/jogger/runner categories. Can understand latter, but other 2 changes are making it less inclusive than it has been in the past.
That's a shame. Used to be nice getting words of enouragement, slogging past the early start walkers. Seems to me that could change the atmosphere of the event.
It is just that the cut off was always 6pm before with early starts permitted. It was always meant to be an event open to runners and walkers alike and not primarily a running marathon where some people chose to walk.
Bear I am not sure that the early starters have ever been 'permissable' tho? Its an open course and I doubt if they will be able to stop anyone from starting earlierI do think that they need to put some form of end time on tho and that again wont detract from people coming in after 5pm, they just wont get the full package of the finish gantry
Of course there has to be a cut off time, but it has 6 p.m. in previous years. The early start was never specifically prohibited before and now the web site makes threats that the back markers will 'remove' those who are not likely to make the finish in the specified time - although this is clearly unenforceable.
I seeNo not enforceable easily I should think and probably not an easy call for them to make eitherSo many H&S rules out there coupled with race insurance and everything which are being the demise of a lot of races
Will contact them tomorrow to ask why changes - although I strongly suspect H&S will be quoted...
Sadly I think it will
Yes - I received lengthy reply raising what I thought were somewhat spurious concerns about people still being out in the dark. As it was still light at 6pm all that was required was for the sweepers to make sure that those at the back would make this time. If necessary a 5.30 finish would be more than adequate, but bureaucracy had its own methods.
You are completely ignoring the point about the event in previous years being aimed at walkers as much as runners. Whatever you might think there are precious few marathons that actively encourage walkers that are not connected with some charity. Of course anyone can walk the course, or run it or whatever - in fact why should anyone bother with the entry fee - it would buy a heck of a lot of sausage rolls.
Totally agree with you, Bear. I've done it 9 times, but never again. I think the whole H&S thing is over-rated, and it's just being turned into a way of grabbing more and more money for Eastbourne. Lovely course, great food, but there are other events nearer home for me where I can be made to feel more welcome. So bye bye Beachy!
I was a little disappointed when they added chip timing, and the price went up.
If I was you Bear I would just set off early and say your chip failed. Having looked at the website it says there are runners finishing between 12 -6pm!
Just to clear up some confusion here; the time limit for this years event is the same as in previous years at 9 hours. Therefore this is a 9am start and 6pm finish.
The only change this year is the addition of the Beachy Head 10K race that sets off 30mins after the start of the marathon - 9:30am.
9 hours is 3mph. Easily walkable.
That's fair enough. I wouldn't exect anybody to be still out there after dark.
Bear - regarding the early starts, I believe their literature has always said no early starts, or at least I think it has for as long as I've been doing it. The first year I did it (as a walker) we wanted to do an early start and so I contacted the organisers. They said no. When we arrived at the start, we could already see a stream of early starters walking out of sight over the hill. I think that they are obliged to say no early starts for their risk assessment. They can't stop you starting early, short of rugby tackling you to the ground. Back in those days, there were no chips but you wouldn't get a chip time if you started early anyway. I can't say for sure if there is a stronger enforcement of the no early start rule now but it has been there for the last several years (including a couple pre chip timing).
Not sure if you'll see this now as this discussion was started in Feb!
As an aside, the year I walked it (and we did start a little early in the end anyway) you can storming past me going over the seven sisters towards the end.
Hi M..o..use - funnily enough I was going to update this thread. I made a comment about this on their FB page recently and got a puzzled reply from the new organiser. He seemed completely unaware that the finish time had been changed and was a bit snarky when I expressed surprise at this and said he had no knowledge of what the previous organiser had done, but as far as he was concerned it was 6pm!!
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