Brighton Marathon 2013

Can't wait for this one!

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15/04/2013 at 13:23

Neil, sounds like you have built up greater leg strength and endurance into your legs. I find that aerobically i am fine its just tiredness in the legs stopping me. I can happily do 1:27 for the half already so maybe its just building endurance so i can carry it through to the second half. Also i suppose running a perfectly flat race helps like Berlin. 

Paul - done Amsterdam and that too is a great run, staduim start and finish, city then suddenly the Amstel river (although there are no real crowds on that stretch). My next few are Berlin this September, Boston in April then hopefully New York or Amsterdam

15/04/2013 at 13:24

Holy cow Neil!!!! you have put me off a sub 3hr marathon...... I'm happy where I am (well not happy but will have to live with it).

Thats a lot of running and alot of seriously fast running! I'm going a for a sit down!

Message seems to be a hell of a lot more training for very small gains.

15/04/2013 at 13:30

First marathon and finished in 3:57, so very happy - ran the whole thing, paced myself for enjoyment rather than risking blowing up and apart from a brief low on the road to hell I enjoyed all of it.

One question from a newbie though, anybody know what was happening with the 4-hour pacemakers? I'd naively assumed there was one pacemaker per time and they ran that time, but reality seemed a bit different. I started from the back of the blue corral with the pacers ahead of me at the front of the corral, start was a bit slow but by mile three I was spot on my target 9-minute mile average pace. I eventually caught and overtook what I thought was 'the' 4-hour pacer a bit before halfway, then about 20 minutes later saw another baloon ahead - confused me a bit, I thought it couldn't be the 3:45 pacer as I wasn't that quick, and it turned out to be another 4-hour pacer. Caught and passed them too, and out on the road to hell found yet another 4-hour pacer who I almost caught and then lost contact with during my low.

Is it normal to have several running pacers for the same time running different paces? I'd guess the one I didn't catch must have come in a few minutes ahead of me and the second I passed was probably near-on 4 hours, dunno about the first one I passed.

15/04/2013 at 13:33
I took a different approach to training. Trained for 12 weeks, I peaked at 70 but the vast majority was at 8:00min/mile or slower. I did no straight MP runs, just 2 long runs with chunks at MP and a spattering of runs at HMP. There were probably about 5 sets of intervals at 5k pace. I also did a 10k, 10m and a 20m race. The 20 i did at MP. It was a slightly modified Pfitzinger plan and it gave me 2:52
15/04/2013 at 13:46

Andy same here - aerobically fine, never even close to aerobic limits (even in 10ks), but legs get tired, and mental ability to tough it out.

15/04/2013 at 13:50

Ryan, that sounds a better plan - you give me hope

Congratulations on a great time! - Interesting how there are so many different training methods here.

15/04/2013 at 13:56
Wow wow wow. Impressive to read the training undertaken- worthwhile to achieve great goals. My goal was to finish and my official time was 5 hours 38. I queued for over 10 mins (really!!) at about 9
Miles so overall really happy with the experience. After the 'comfort break'. I ran to 20 miles and felt fine mentally but suddenly back hurting and legs started to go. I decided to run/power walk and take a gel and compose myself to head to finish. I then started to worry about how warm it was- too much water/too little water/ what if I am sick etc but I decided I need to push on. With crowd cheering and pulling you home Did my last mile in 9.47 (which was by far quickest of whole thing!). I hope that I will do another marathon but I do not really have the time to do it justice at the moment. Best wishes to all of you and good luck achieving your goals in the future,whatever they may be
15/04/2013 at 14:06

Well done CathrineP - I bet you are dead pleased today though!

Its a great achievement 26.2 miles!!!! Talking of gels there was some really nice gels at brighton - I had alovely chocolate one at approx mile 16 and the cliff shot jellies were really nice as well. - It was tempting to stop for a picnic almost!

15/04/2013 at 14:30

Does anyone have a pair of legs I can borrow?

While Toby and Poohbear have managed two outdoor excursions today, wandering around the nice, bright, sunny Brighton beach, I am stuck indoors because my legs are currently refusing to do more than just about get me around the flat.

Well done everyone on some great times, they're all really impressive.

15/04/2013 at 14:54
Would love to go under 3:15 but 2 minutes short this time. My total training came in at 370 miles over 15 weeks, peaking at 42 miles in week 9 and maximum LSR's of 2 x 20.

Think it's obvious what I need to do...

andyc209 - I agree, aerobically fine, it's just the legs...it's always the legs!
15/04/2013 at 15:11

Also liked the shot gels on entering the Power station - how lonely is that stretch - its seems a little odd that my troubles pretty much started along that stretch - maybe it would be better having that early on when the lack of support is not so much an issue,  seems a shame having no support really when you need it most, although thanks to those who were there. 

I did buy the Advanced Marathoning book so will follow it this time - he says now but knows after 1 week will be back to the old habits. The one thing i never do but know i should is repeats. I spend probably too much time running up hills given where i live - one of the roads near me is the fourth steepest in Britain and i can get to one of the highest points in Cheshire as well so i do some severe climbs in my runs -but maybe i am just not doing the distance enough or the speedwork. 

15/04/2013 at 15:32
Sian 3 what training plan did u follow?
15/04/2013 at 15:35
Bad day at the office for me. Not sure completely what went wrong but 16 miles my legs just seized totally and I ended up walking for 7 miles. Post-race analysis of the Garmin info and memory gives me three things:

A) I aimed too high. Based on comfortable sub-3hr run at the Ashby 20 I thought I was good for 3:45 so I joined that pace group. Should have gone for the 4:00 as that was the pace I ran at Ashby.
B) Food wasn't ideal the day before because of the travelling. For Ashby I was at home and could eat right.
C) Pacers weren't very good and I wasn't strong enough to cope with it. 3:45 is 8:34 pace. We ran the first 5 miles at nearly 9 and then the next 7 at 8:20 to get back on time. So we went through 13.1 bang on time but the increase in pace was too much for me.

I'll recover this week on the bike, do some easy runs next week and then run Stratford at 9 min/mile. It's well within my ability to do that and will do my training justice. And I won't trust anyone else with my pacing other than myself.

All that aside, the race and day were great. Crowd support was excellent and it's a nice medal. Another pointless cotton tshirt to use as a bike rag though. If little races like Ashby can give a great hoodie, and others give usable technical shirts, why do the big ones always give rubbish cotton ones?
15/04/2013 at 15:43

Hills are good - I bet that is why you have acheived such good times. My running improved massively when i started running hills.

I like the power station at shoreham. Rome may have the Colleseum and Berlin may have the Brandenberg gate - but brighton has the power station!!!!!!

15/04/2013 at 15:46

ben - you should see some of the trash you get from london then t-shirt wise. There was one a couple of years ago that was so bad it looked like i kid had scrawled something on the front and it was labelled Adidas as well.

15/04/2013 at 15:51

that's like saying Paris, New York, Milan are all centres for fashion but so is Milton Keynes because it has a Primark!!! Not really sure the Power station ranks up there with the rest . Still the funniest thing this year was my mother-in-law who came this year thought we just run around the town (had no idea how far it really was). When we drove to Newhaven where our hotel was i pointed out the top of the course near the windmill and she said 'oh thats a long way'. It was only after the race when i pointed out we had also been all the way to the power station the other way in the distance she realised how far we had all run....

15/04/2013 at 15:51
Ryan, what are your 10k and half times out if interest mate ?
15/04/2013 at 15:59
Andy haha!

A cab driver asked me today ''is Brighton Marathon shorter than London Marathon''

I said no, it's longer !
15/04/2013 at 16:04

My god duaghter (aged 17) was watching a 10k race and said "oh it took you alot longer to do Brighton marathon". Amazing how many people have no idea how long a marathon is.

Andy - Milton Keynes has a Primark!!!!! - Im off to MK - catch you all later...........

15/04/2013 at 16:16
Ha ha Neil spicer I had the same response when I told my friend I was doing Brighton marathon next year
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