British 10k London - measured long?

Ran it today and measured 10.4k on Garmin

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13/07/2014 at 17:00

Anyone else run this today and measure it?  I was gunning it (my pace!) and came in 2 mins slower than expected having notched up 10k well before the finish - my Garmin is usually spot on.  Because it was so badly organised, with folks of all abilities starting at the same time (!) we were weaving about a lot overtaking people and taking a wide line.  Still though, 0.4km early seems a lot to me.  Thoughts?  Thanks in advance folks.

 

 

13/07/2014 at 17:03

It think it could be right, as the year i ran it had an extra 0.3km with the amount of weaving i had to do to go past walkers and slow runners. 

 

13/07/2014 at 18:15

Bad organisation at the British 10 - well, who'da thunk it? 

seren nos    pirate
13/07/2014 at 18:22
Screamapillar wrote (see)

Bad organisation at the British 10 - well, who'da thunk it? 

 

 

13/07/2014 at 18:41

Mine came up a little long, but not as much as that. There was a bit where I lost satellite reception so I just put it down to that. Or it could be that the course wasn't as shown on their pre-race course map? Of course, for £50 entry fee, do we really expect a well organised race?

13/07/2014 at 19:28

I have been put off ever doing this particular race, one of the reasons is the "no wave" starts.  They really need waves to stop the ridiculous fiasco that appears to happen at the beginning of this event.

 

I am interested to know just WHY they do not have waves, too much hassle for them to organise I suppose.

 

I shall stick the the BUPA 10k in May, that one is superb.

13/07/2014 at 21:08
Can't believe that anyone is still paying to enter this farce.
Every year it gets crap reviews but people still throw good money at it and then complain when it turns out to be another shambles.
13/07/2014 at 23:25
Although it's very fashionable to bash the British 10k, going back to the basics...

A garmin will almost always measure long compared to the advertised distance. GPS is not nearly as accurate as a measuring wheel, and it is unlikely that any runner took the most direct, measured line around the course. If you want to be sure of pacing you should wear and use a pace band along with the m/km markers if you want to be sure of your target vs actual split times.
14/07/2014 at 08:35

My Garmin is also usually pretty much spot on but came in short. C'est la vie. They probably only measured the route using a map, but considering it's not a UKA race I'm not sure you can be too fussy. Mind you, at £50, perhaps we should!

Edited: 14/07/2014 at 09:02
seren nos    pirate
14/07/2014 at 09:33

and if the route was different to the one on the site.......even if it was measured,...it was changed........

its a fun run .....so why bother about time...does it appear on the power of 10 ?

14/07/2014 at 10:00

A very expensive fun run.

14/07/2014 at 11:20

I did it yesterday. I was doing it for charity with some work colleagues but also wanted to go under 45 for the first time. I read up some of the reviews of it on these forums and managed to get to the front of the first "wave" by getting up at 6am etc and heading down early. So yes they did operate waves, but.....

.....however, this wasn't the first wave, as they had allowed 2000 runners who were running for the official sponsor to start ahead of the rest, and this included some proper fun runners dressed up - some walking. We set off around a minute after this group and within 200m I kid you not it was chaos. I didn't too too badly and came out of the first k, in 4'51 or so and from there it was fine but if I hadn't been aware and made sure I was near the front of the masses it would have been an absolute write off. I made 44'14 in the end which was pleasing but I could definitely have gone under 44 if it wasn't for all this.

I'd even argue they were putting people at serious risk of injury by allowing these fun runners to go off first. They didn't even advise something like "stay left if you are a slow runner or walker" or anything which might have helped some.

It was a good day in other ways but as someone who likes to compete against the clock I would swerve this race, no pun intended, in the future unless they introduce proper start groups. Btw their excuse for not doing so doesn't hold up - the pavement alongside Green Park was fully usable, including some unadvertised temporary toilets, and you could essentially join the large queue anywhere you wanted. A fair few runners circumvented their way to the front using it.

14/07/2014 at 11:22

Btw my Garmin 620 came up as 10.14km. Part of that was probably footpod counted due to the tunnel sections near Blackfriars.

14/07/2014 at 12:56

Can't offer any comments but £50 for a 10K really?

UFO
14/07/2014 at 14:41

A race organised by non-runners for non-runners!

UFO
14/07/2014 at 15:18

^ this should be the tagline - except "organised" should read "disorganised"

14/07/2014 at 17:06

Coincidentally registration has just opened for Bupa 10K in May 2015...

14/07/2014 at 18:48

I also did it yesterday , my garmin came up slightly long as well , however the start was a joke , I was fairly close to the front and i promise witnessed people stopoing and starting to walk after 100 yards .... Then 500 yards further a complete bottleneck where everyone came to a complete standstill ... 

As for after the finish line ... No Gatorade / lucozade and a goody bag with a pair of laces and a voucher for a pound off tiger balm ... Not really value for money compared to madrid half that cost 15 euro for which you got a brilliantly organised race fruit , powerbar and milkshake as you cross the finish line and an addidas running top ... 

14/07/2014 at 21:02

I'd love to love this race - the route was great, and the stewards friendly...

But the lack of starting pens segregated by predicted time made the first 2k complete chaos. There might be good reasons for not having pens....but I can't think of any, and the organisers don't seem to be giving any hints as to why they have made this choice. 

As someone else has pointed out, putting slow runners right at the front is both dangerous and unfair, both to the slower runners (who will spend the race being barged past) and those stuck behind them.

Also a few of the KM markers seemed to have gone walkabout...

Less important than the race itself, but at the finish was no goody bag, a tiny bottle of water, no food at all, and the medals were 20min walk away, next to stalls trying to flog expensive running tat

Not impressed....which is as I say a real pity, since for a route in central London it could so easily be great.

 

14/07/2014 at 21:23

Err it included tunnels and someone moaning about their Garmin saying the distance is wrong? It sounds ridiculously expensive, but seriously someone is still moaning about the age old the race must be wrong as my garmin cannot be, PMSL

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