Dublin 2012

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31/10/2012 at 16:49

Who knows when Dublin 2013 entry opens?!

01/11/2012 at 09:48
What a great event I loved it. 3:39:49 which is a few seconds slower than my PB. I managed to stay with the 3:30 pacers until somewhere around mile 18/20 mark but I've still got a long way to go to be able to maintain that pace for the full distance...bring on Paris 2013 and marathon number 3
01/11/2012 at 09:58
Dylan man, thanks a lot! still buzzin! not sure when Taunton opens but won't be long now, as for Dartmoor Discovery get ya name on the list! You never know, it's a awesome race!
01/11/2012 at 11:56
Great race pb by 5 mins for me - loved it!
01/11/2012 at 22:47

Some great stories and times on here. Glad everyones training and hard work has paid the deserved dividends. I'm now back in Scotland and a few days of partying in Dublin are sadly over. Time to go a bit further into detail on my race experience.

Preparations as you all know had gone really well so on Monday morning I was feeling really enthusiastic and confident. I had avoided caffeine for a week and then an hour before the race took a red bull shot having done a bit of research on this. Got down to the start and after a trip to the loo, took an energy gel and lined up in the first wave.

The aim had been for some time to run 3h30 and my training had been focussed around the 8 min mile pace. The plan was to run between 7:50 and 8:10 for the first few miles, getting to halfway feeling as if I hadn't expended much energy. The first mile was actually slower than intended (8:25) down to a combination of me trying to not get carried away on legs that felt really fresh and also due to it being pretty crowded and a few bottlenecks. I wasn't really concerned though as I knew there was plenty of time to make that time back. The next few miles were largely uneventful. Someone clipped my leg in Pheonix Park but it didn't knock me and it was them who stumbled slightly. That aside I just kept a really steady pace throughout.

Having started the race about 30 secs back from the 3h30 pacers I managed to kick past them about 12 miles. (although I did take one of them momentarily in the park when he stopped behind a tree for the toilet much to many of our amusement)I got to the half point a little ahead of target and feeling in great shape although aware that in a marathon things can change within a few strides. Nutrition wise I was taking on a gel every 30 mins and this seemed to be keeping the energy levels high. From mile 14 I actually started picking up the pace every so slightly and was able to continue this for the next few miles.

I kept expecting that rough patch to come but as I got through 20 miles it had still not come and I found I was in a really nice rythmn. I was enjoying running sections of the course that my mind had no recollection of from last year where I was so focussed on just putting one leh ahead of the other. The only semblance of a sticky spot came between miles 23 and 24. Mentally I knew the finish was nearby but we all know 3.2 miles of running a lot of time can be lost. I was a little bit late getting my last gel and was not going to take it but when I did I felt the benefit within 5 minutes and the last couple of miles I picked it up again.

I have to say that while the crowds are amazing and inspirational throughout, in this last couple of miles it really is astounding. I actually found myself choking up a little bit in the last mile and a half when I realised what I was about to achieve. Last year when I completed the race the feeling was more of relief and I don't think I fully appreciated what I had done. This year I was completed aware of the achievement and soaked up that last run towards the line, pumping by chest and throwing arms aloft as I crossed the line in a time of 3:25.42, a time I still find hard to comprehend!

What an amazing race, city and support. I made the most of high fiving kids on the way around. I found this a great motivator and it's the least we can do to give something back to the supporters who give so much to us. Towards the later stages I even ran a wide route round a corner to high five a little girl who had her hand optimistically place out awaiting reciprocation. I haven't decided what my plans are for running next year.Such is my rate of progression just now, my time this year was 34 mins quicker than last year, that I need to figure out where I go next. If an Autumn marathon is in

01/11/2012 at 22:49

the plans then I am 99% certain it will be Dublin again.

Anyway I have probably bored you all stiff now so I will just leave you with my Garmin splits. Hope everyone is recovering well

  1 8:22.5 1.00 8:23 2 7:52.6 1.00 7:53 3 7:54.5 1.00 7:54 4 7:43.5 1.00 7:44 5 7:57.1 1.00 7:57 6 7:49.0 1.00 7:49 7 7:46.6 1.00 7:47 8 7:43.7 1.00 7:44 9 7:54.5 1.00 7:55 10 7:50.5 1.00 7:51 11 7:44.1 1.00 7:44 12 7:56.5 1.00 7:57 13 7:55.0 1.00 7:55 14 7:40.2 1.00 7:40 15 7:39.4 1.00 7:39 16 7:44.3 1.00 7:44 17 7:38.1 1.00 7:38 18 7:28.2 1.00 7:28 19 7:30.6 1.00 7:31 20 7:46.1 1.00 7:46 21 7:53.6 1.00 7:54 22 7:30.2 1.00 7:30 23 7:41.3 1.00 7:41 24 8:01.3 1.00 8:01 25 7:57.9 1.00 7:58 26 7:55.3 1.00 7:55 27 3:01.6 0.37 8:10
02/11/2012 at 14:15

Will.....i must have been right beside you at the start, i too was 30 secs behind the 3:30 pacers and i think i overtook them about mile 5 or 6?!?? The night before i decided against using the pacers and just using the Virtual Partner on my Garmin. I set it for 7:58 mile pace and knew that i had to stay ahead of it to beat 3hrs 30.....

Tell me Will if you are getting the same reaction..When i am telling people i did it in 3:16:00 everyone, without fail, says 'oh..is it an easy course??    ...AAAaaagghhh...not oh your training must have paid off...not, oh your fitness must have really improved??!!!!!! I  must add most of these people are overweight and not runners, but it does knock you down a peg or two...LOL

02/11/2012 at 18:08

Wait till they start saying to you were you trying for 3 hours! Such people generally have no idea of the level of training and commitment that it takes for the average runner to get to this level never mind what it takes for the average 40 year old, fightiing his beer belly to achieve such times.

It's your achievement don't let anyone dampen it. Bloody well done.

 

02/11/2012 at 18:53
Bloody tell me about it! I did 3.35 for my 1st marathon at 17 stone, I had already lost 5 stone then, it's took another 5 and a half stone 77 marathons and a lot of graft to get my 2.48.04 I can tell ya! All worth it tho!
02/11/2012 at 19:21

Wow Muzza, that's fantastic impprovement. You must feel absolutely great.

 

02/11/2012 at 19:27

I just did my sub -4 at 15 Stone (5th Marathon) - It has me thinking that I will only significantly improve by dropping another 2 stone at least  (5'10") - So at least I have a new target now

Edited: 02/11/2012 at 19:28
02/11/2012 at 20:24

I'm not really THAT bothered about it...i know what i had done training-wise, diet-wise,etc to get that result and am still over the moon...but it was just a shock that people think that way.

At the finish in Dublin my pal,who was doing his first marathon and finished in 3:41, was delighted for me. And my wife, who saw all the dedication i had put in, was totally ecstatic as i had told her i would be around the 3:30 mark, but maybe slightly over.

Carrying on about the weight thing..i was 17 stone when i started running last year..was 13.5-14 stone when i ran my first marathon in April, then got to 12 stone for the dublin one and felt better. Now my aim is to get to 11 stone or just below for the London marathon next year...although my wife will probably moan that i look ill...??!!!

Edited: 02/11/2012 at 20:49
03/11/2012 at 08:48
Jim, weight is the key, I'm 5.10 and 2 yrs ago at 14-15 stone I was doing around 3.20/30 now I'm around 11.10ish and now im running 30-40 mins off per race, think of it like this, if you were 12 stone and someone came up to you on the startline and said here is 35lbs of potatoes carry them around for me! What would be your answer? Personally I think if you lost 3 stone you would be knocking on the door for London good for age 3.10-15.

Dave, you probably only look ill at 11 stone if you loose it fast coz you will go gaunt in the face etc, but after a while it evens out. Another massive help to me is core work and strengthening, plus since I lost the weight and did the core I get injured less which means I can do speed sessions.

End of the day we still have to have the engine, and you can fine tune it to the best if our ability, I could probably loose another stone but I was a stone lighter a year ago 10st 10 but I am running quicker now than I was then, only 5 mins but that weight is mostly muscle from cycling, core and light weights so its good weight.
03/11/2012 at 19:07

I'm sure we would have been within sight of each other at some point Dave. I was wearing a neon yellow outfit (although so were hundreds of others) Amazing effort from you to get 3.15 though. I think I could probably gone a couple of minutes quicker in retrospect as there was juice left in the tank but it leaves me with somthing to play with next time.

I've not been back to work yet so not had the "easy marathon" chat yet. Pretty sure its what I will be getting on Monday. All my mates appreciate the work I put in so they know there was nothing easy about what I did.

I plan on my first run tomorrow. It will be nice to go out with no pressure and I can just run as slowly and as short a route as I want. The quest for sub 3.15 begins now!

Interesting thoughts on weight. I am 5 9" and 12 stone although I do gym work to avoid the skinny runners look and make sure I keep a decent shape.However I agree if I got to 11 stone it would benefit my running. Just need to work out how to get that stone off as 12 stone seems to be my fighting weight!

03/11/2012 at 19:38
Just focus on speed, fast speed then Will! 10-18 x 400s or 6-10 x 800, run the 400s harder than 5k pace and the 800 at 5-10k pace recovery time is once you have your breathe back. 8-10 wk block of it up to taper time or 2 wks before your next goal marathon. It will make marathon pace feel like a breeze. A half marathon or 2 can help in a build up to in my opinion 4 and 8 wks out if you can find one, use those weeks as recovery weeks so you can give it your all.
03/11/2012 at 22:25

Think I must have been running along with as well Dave, managed to come in at 3.17.48. If you heard the shouts of come on Karl, well done Karl then we were together. wasnt until i was back home I worked out which runner he was but it makes the point of how useful it can be to have your name printed on your vest for extra support!

Had a great day, have gone from the never again to looking at autumn marathons. At the moment the plan is to focus on halfs next year, hopefully go sub 1.20 then have a crack at a sub 3 in 2014

03/11/2012 at 22:49

I too had a PB in dublin (albeit a good hour after you all finished!) Loved high fiving those kids too. Amazing city, amazing race.. see you there next year?

04/11/2012 at 17:18

Sound advice Muzza. Who am I to argue with someone who has run 77 marathons. I will try and add that type of session into my next marathon plan.I must admit speedwork is the one part of running I hate but I fully appreciate its what I need to keep improving. I'm just delighted this year after the marathon I have been able to get straight back out and keep running. I was out for 2 months last year after the marathon. So are we all back to Dublin next year?

05/11/2012 at 09:57
78 now Will I agree I hate speed work as its lung busting stuff, I do most of mine on a running machine so I can't cheat and back off the pace. Even a 10x800 with 90 sec recovery is only a 40-50 min session inc warm up and down. But it's worth soooo much more than a easy 50 min jog.

No Dublin next year, I go over seas twice a year and there's so many other places to go, next year it's Barcelona and Berlin but I'm thinking Dublin 2014 as its the 35th anniversary, I like anniversary races. That's why I'm going back to Berlin it's 40th there. I can recommend Scandinavia, great up there! Helsinki, Stockholm and Copenhagen all done and great races. Tallinn, Riga and midnight sun Norway to do, god, so many races to do and places to visit!
05/11/2012 at 13:18

Will was right, I was wrong its 77, Lost count! 

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