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05/10/2012 at 18:58

Nice work Philby and I love the raining mantra - will store that one for errr....... a rainy day!

I defo had a virus this last few weeks but luckily I have managed to train through it in a fashion. Had weeks of 62, 58, 54, 76, 28 (virus tried to ake a grip last week) and 60 miles so far this week. Had some awful track sessions but last night was much better and hitting splits similar to pre-London and after a tough morning session so I reckon Amsterdam will be OK and around the 2:40 mark. I can confirm DT2 is in amazing form and I think he will go under 2:30 - Hope so because he's worked incredibly hard for it

Fi - Hope the pain stays away for you and you enjoy the Cardiff half.


Caz - congrats on the anniversary and well done on your Nottingham run. Definately got that PB in your sights now.

Did my longest ever training run on Tuesday night. Was supposed to be 22 on an out and back route near Hitchin. Went out 9 miles and came back 7 miles (16 so far) then did a 2 mile off shoot (there and back took me to 20 and 2 miles from the hotel) Got to 21.5 miles at 6:30 pace and took the last left along the road back to the hotel only it should have been a right. Did another mile beofre I realised and then doubled back. Still managed to take another wrong turn as well in the last half mile leaving me with 24.52 miles in the bag -- NEVER AGAIN!

2 races tomorrow for me. Parkrun in the morning and then a cross country relay in the afternoon - shoud be fun

05/10/2012 at 19:34
Dave, you make me want to be a better runner after reading that Amazing stuff, good to see your getting back to fitness but in all honesty your "poor" weeks would be easily better than my best!!!
05/10/2012 at 22:12

Great running Caz. That time is going to keep on coming down. Sounds like some top pacing from Mr CS as well.

Fi, hope the 20 miler went well and the sciatic nerve has settled down. Good luck and hope you and Shaun enjoy Cardiff.

Phil, that's a good pace for us mortals for a training run. Well done mate. But be careful you don't overdo it. 22 on the 15th seems a bit close to the race to me.

Obviously when I talk about mortals I don't include Dave in that description. Absolutely stunning stuff. Hope you're rewarded with a good run in Amsterdam

Fi, thanks for the vote of confidence but think I'm being realistic when I talk about being really happy if I can get under four and a half hours at Snowdon. Looking at  the mile splits posted by people who've done the race before it really brings home the extremes of ups and downs from start to finish.

Last 20-miler planned for tomorrow morning. Weather forecast looks ok.

Have a good weekend everyone.

06/10/2012 at 09:10
Bloody hell, there's some serious running happening on here, wish I was as motivated as you all, London marathon entry would of been the kick up the arse I needed to get back on track but, alas, rejected again, so I'll just carry on ticking over for now and look at some longer runs next year. Having said that I'm loving my, dare I say on here, cycling at the minute and have entered my first ever sportive for tomorrow, 60 miles, so I'm a bit nervous, especially with how cold it's got all of a sudden, so I'll be layering up I think.

Happy Birthday Fi.
06/10/2012 at 09:34

Thank you Beavis.  You've either got a very good memory or have been on FB....

Well for somebody who has not been feeling 100% Dave you can certainly still bang out the miles and times.  Crazy & awesome in equal measure.  I also think you must be one of these men that suffers really, really badly with man flu. Lol.

Last long run completed yday.  Left work a little early.  Misjudged route so ended up just under 21 miles.  Really happy with it though.  Especially as the first few miles were hell and I seriously did not think I'd last until 10 never mind 20.  Bit of a worry when you start clock watching as early as 1 mile in..............

Had a bit of a dilemma before.  New shoes turned up in the AM and I realised by comparing just how worn out my old ones were.  Do I run in new and safe my legs but risk a bit of rub?  Or keep to old - no rubbing but mash my legs?  Decided to keep with old, I think mainly 'cos I couldn't contemplate the telling off if it had all gone tits up.  Golden rule - don't wear new kit for first time on 20 mile run! ........Oh yes, I could hear the lectures. So old trainers used.  Feet sore by the end and slight twinge in one calf but other than that - glad to say - fit and well.  Even opened up a bit on the last half mile back to car so actually feel like Snowdon is very much doable.  (still with a big dollop of realism of how tough it's gonna be mind )

GE - when do you require our drink orders for the first round?  Or in my case you'd better have a few rounds first - I'll probably be joining you around about round 3.

Off to look at road bikes later Beavis.  So hopefully I will be singing the praises of all things cycling very soon.  Thinking of entering - or at least trying to enter - the Dragon Race next year as it's local to me.  Think the long one on that ride is around 120 miles.  Hmmm......think I'd better get some padded shorts - or maybe enter the shorter one.   Good luck tomorrow.  Let us know how you get on.

Have a good weekend all.  Weather fab here today.  Just off up the mountain with the two girls. 

Take care all x

06/10/2012 at 10:02
Fi, Yay, penblwydd hapus
06/10/2012 at 21:00

Beavis, hope you enjoy the sportive. Presume you're not doing the Brum Half this year. My son entered again but as he now has a broken toe ( football injury) he's been told not to run. Can't remember whether I mentioned that before. I'm the only person in our house without a broken bone .

Fi, hope you've had a great day. You must be so pleased with that run. Awesome. And plenty of time to run in the new shoes.

Got the last 20-miler done this morning. Wasn't looking forward to it to be honest. But it was amazing. Ran my hilly route (nothing like Snowdon though) which takes me up to the Staffs/Worcs border. Got to the highest point and the view is stunning. This morning the sun was just breaking through and the mist was hanging in the valleys. Felt so fortunate to be fit and well to do this sort of stuff.

07/10/2012 at 16:48
GE, no not running at Brum but popping down to support as friend is running and also hope to bump into Angie.

Sportive was great, but tough, started out at about 17.5mph for the first half (30 miles) but then my legs went and ended up just churning out the 2nd half, also had to climb up to Glacial Boulder, which was one of the climbs on the tour of Britain,
near the end.
Todays conclusion - must practice more on hills to strengthen the quads.
08/10/2012 at 16:28

Tough cycling on some of those hills. Love the cycling too but time is short so dont get the road bike out enough, I tend to ride to work on my mountain bike if not running down the trail. Well done on the lsr GE hate those as the training comes to an end near a marathon. Did a nine miler in the mist yesterday morning which was nice but the smell of Bacon at the carboot in Bakewell drove me home, but I still only had porridge as no bacon in the fridge. Awesome respect for the mileage some of you folk do. My average is about 25 at the moment per week.

10/10/2012 at 21:07

I think Dave's mileage just goes to show how much effort & dedication it takes to run at the level him & Darren do...his weekly mileage is equal to most of my monthly totals

Well done on the long runs Snowdon trio, suppose I'd better pull my finger out this weekend and not let the marathon side down.  We had a 16 planned for the saturday just gone and after doing 8.5miles on Friday we had to bail at 9.5miles as the legs just felt so heavy on the Saturday...apparently this getting close to my PB malarky takes it out of my lickle legs. 

Mr CS has been looking at the Vegas course and erm it doesn't look very Vegassy....looks like it's lots of desert & through mountains...think our training on Yorkshire roads will stand us in good stead but I imagine a lot of Americans will be walking on the rolling route.  Still hoping for sub-5 though.

Fi, can you imagine how long you would have been banished to the naughty step had you come to the conclusion a 20mile run this close to the race was the perfect time to try out new trainers.  After a 4mile run in new trainers knackered my foot up for best part of a week I walk around in mine for a while before even heading out the door for a run in them.

11/10/2012 at 14:14

 Caz - know what you mean about Dave and DT's mileage.  Even with marathon training my heaviest weeks are only late 30s. 

But also, amazingly, these guys are running the times that they do whilst holding down full time jobs and family life as well.  The top runners all now have the luxury of being professional and hence the time and resources to devote 100% to the sport (as they should)  The top club runners don't have that benefit and yet their times are not vastly different.  Huge dedication.  On that note - well done DT (or your alias) last weekend.  Was it a 3rd?

Oh well, looks like it is gonna be a wet run again tonight.  Weather for Sunday not looking good either.  A few runs over the next couple of weeks and then it's Snowdon bound. Eeekk!  Have to do somthing otherwise as soon as I stop I feel all the niggles and colds coming out.  Taper madness hey?

Stay happy and healthy guys.  Good luck with training this weekend all. x 

11/10/2012 at 20:28

HI everyone


I've just entered Edinburgh 2013, and Manchester (April) arghhh!!


12/10/2012 at 08:20

Hills are hard work but they're great for the training. Have definitely noticed the difference as I've tried to run more hilly routes in prep for Snowdon.

mcs, 25 miles a week is pretty good going. I presume you don't have a marathon planned at the moment?

Caz, don't remember loads of deserts and mountains in Yorkshire but I think I know what you mean....

Fi, I suppose wet runs are ideal bearing in mind the likely weather. This time last year I was looking forward to the Palma mara which was warm and flat. Everything that Snowdon won't be......

Welcome Toni. Good luck for Manchester and Edi. You've stumbled onto a 3 year old thread which still has some connection to the Edi Mara as most of us on here have met there over the past couple of years. Not too sure at the minute how many of us are doing 2013 but you're very welcome to hang around and join in.

Am well into taper mode now. Haven't decided on the length of tomorrow's run, could be anything from 10 to 15 miles. Just see how I feel.

Have a good weekend all.

12/10/2012 at 20:12

 hard for me to avoid hills GE.  But they don't get any easier lol.  Great for stamina though and the mental toughness required.  Actually, find I prefer the struggle and pain of working up a hill more than when it gets hard work on a flatter route.  Think maybe that at least with a hill you know the hard work will eventually result in an easy stretch - either flat or downhill.

Don't quote me on that mind after Snowdon............I'll probably be put off hills for life.

If it's raining now I think of Philby........'if it ain't raining it ain't training'

6 miles completed last night - in the rain - by 'eck, I'd better find some energy from somewhere for sunday or it's gonna be a long 13 miles!

Think I'll do a 15 next week and then lots of smaller ones leading up to Snowdon - just to keep the legs ticking over and the colds at bay.  Few little niggles appearing - no big surprise.  Will probably book a physio next week just to have an iron out.

Have a good weekend all. x


15/10/2012 at 15:39

Cardiff half completed.  Good route.  Lovely fresh morning.  Bit chilly on the start but soon warmed up.  finished in 1.55 - same as Edinburgh.  Haven't checked exactly but Edinburgh was seconds quicker so not a PB.  But another sub 2.  Legs a bit tight - calves - so will be stretching lots this week and a few days off to recover.  nothing to worry about though.

Crowds were a bit of a headache on times.  the first mile was one of my slowest.  So a new PB is definitely doable.  Infact a sub 1.50 is my target for Llanelli half in March.

Take care all x

16/10/2012 at 07:56

Fi, well done on that. If you can stay injury free those times will just keep on tumbling down. Talking of which....... if you're set on doing 15 the weekend before Snowdon you make sure you take things really easy. Especially after Cardiff. Don't want you turning up injured.

Did 14 miles on the towpaths on Saturday partly in a torrential downpour so that obviously must be good using the Philby philosophy. Quickish 6 with the club last night which felt pretty good. 11 days and counting.....

16/10/2012 at 12:22
morning all and well done to Fi, proof Edi was very much within your capabilities

well tomorrow is my lst LSR, hoping to get 22 done but wont push too hard this close to the big day! will report back tomorrow afternoon with an update - wish me luck
17/10/2012 at 10:49

Good luck Phil.  Hope it goes OK for you.

Little jog out last night to loosen the legs.  No major issues and actually feel looser this AM for the run out.  So gonna take the dogs for 4 ish tonight then get a hilly run in towards the end of the week/weekend.  Just to remind myself what running up some proper hills feels like. Lol.

What kind of time are you guys aiming to arrive at Snowdon?  We need to register and pick up numbers so thought we could all head down to race HQ together.

17/10/2012 at 16:57
20 miles done, wasn't fun !
17/10/2012 at 19:03

But in 10 days time 26.2 miles will be brilliant fun ...........promise!

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