A cool 15 degrees, so should be lots of PBs today.
Word is out Sarah Gee clocked a 1:16, an exceptional performance for a 45yr old lady. More time training - and less time talking about training - can bring great performances.
Who won the men's race?
The winner of the men's race got a PB too at 1:13!
One or two on this thread have gone a tad quiet
A club colleague of mine ran today, his car gave him 15 degrees at 09:20, (and it's an 09 BMW so he doesn't need a new thermometer). Maybe things heated up after 09:30?
But, the starting temperature was 15 degrees, fact!
I didn't get a pb (but wasn't expecting one with that first hill!). Really enjoyable race though
Not a PB for me... I'll leave that for the flatter courses like Wokingham or Richmond but a couple mins off my course time so happy with that.
It's nice to see more water stops on offer than advertised... perhaps there are a couple unofficial ones? The sponges are always welcome too. There must have been several hundred local supporters along the route, which is much appreciated.
Yeah the supporters were good, I missed the water station that was supposed to be at about 1 1/2 miles and thoughtfor a bit that it might set the tone foe the rest, but there were plenty of water stations, so much so that it didn't really matter that I didn't get over for a couple of them!
I didn't expect a PB, especially after the first hills, but I guess it was jsut one of those days where it flowed!! That and any half PB is 6 yearsb old!!
Excellent race - the usual fantastic organising by Handy Cross Runners, combined with unusually low(ish) temperatures. Very glad Mr Sunshine chose to delay his appearance until the afternoon!
I was aiming for a personal course best - so anything in the low 1:38's would have been great, but ended up surprising myself with a low 1:36 (my third best time anywhere) and even a top 100 finish - woo-hoo!
Congratulations to everyone who took part - especially Sarah Gee, what an amazing time/performance. Oh, and Stevie G - well done, a course best & a top 20 finish - excellent stuff.
"course best"....I like that, .next we'll be having a "course on mild day with porridge for breakfast" best!!!
Well done to all the PB'ers, showing us all what nads-out progressive training is all about.
I'm interested in adding to my training, and as you are an experienced runner who's clocked a 2.30 marathon, do you think "nads-out progressive training" is the only session which will lead to p.b's? What else do you recommend?
Nothing wrong with claiming a course best TD2! It was my 9th and fastest time at Wycombe and I'm as pleased as that as I was by my overall half marathon PB back in Feb. Whichever way you look at it it's a tough course, and for those who managed a PB on it - well done, but get yourselves onto a flat HM ASAP and lower it by 2 minutes!!
Oh, and as I'm a natural pedant, Sarah Gee is 46 and her time was 1:17.07 and 4th overall - highest ever placed woman at Wycombe and a new course record by over 2 mins! Outstanding for any age but inspirational for all of us V40+s with kids in tow! Good luck inToronto Sarah!
Agreed BB, if you've just done a PB at Wycombe then head to Wokingham in Feb and knock another two minutes of your PB time. That's a great way to knock 5 minutes from your PB every year, which is a reasonable target for any runner, even someone with a 1:15 PB.
McBood, an aspiring local runner can improve by doing the following:
1) Avoiding "race culture". A race has an extremely destructive impact on the body if ran all-out. An all-out marathon (and to lesser extent) half marathon can actually put a training regime back several months as well as doing irreperable damage to your cardio and aerobic/anaeorobic systems. Ideally, only do one race a year, not a marathon (any running session over two plus hours does long term damage to your musculo-skeletal system).
2)Set your goals and make them happen. Good example is Chiltern Eddie. Read the report on the Bucks Free Press website ; the man wanted to win, but to win he really hurt himself in the last five miles bringing it home, and to be frank, according to reports, was almost going backwards when he made the line (by comparison, Sarah Gee accelerated into a stunning sprint finish) . Now Eddie may never go sub 1:10 in the HM, and his extreme effort on Sunday will have put that cause back some way, but he is well capable of coming back next year and winning in a similar time and it sounds like that is exactly what he wants to do!
3) Training. Excepting the weekly interval session if your running session is not 1-2 hours long then your daft. It's all about time on feet: spending the right amount of time on your feet every day, not too little and not too much. Days off don 't help. You decide the pace, but for most of them keep the heart rate at 120-130 bpm. Definitely always keep the heart rate under 140 bpm on all your runs. Save all the pace bravado and heroics for the interval session, you want to hurt yourself, hurt yourself as bad as you like in THAT session, that'll humble you.
4)Know your body. We're adapting all the time as runners. I have never been injured, but have adaption pains all the time. At the moment for example, I have a pain in the bridge of the right foot. It is happening because I recently upped session pace (as my HR was getting too low) and as a result of that increase in pace the toes of my right foot are striking the ground a little diiferently. The increase in pace also gave me some adaptation pain for two days in the flexors of my left hip, but that went quickly. Isn't the human body great, it automatically widens your stride as you make cardio improvements!
5) Give it ten years, that's how long it takes to become a top class runner with steady, progressive daily training.
6) Get yourself motivated, when your daily run gets a little hard after 1hr 45 minutes get a nice hammer beat going in your head:
That help McBood?
Tim Dale 2:
Well I run because I enjoy it - it make me smile. If I had to worry about all the stuff you have written then I would not. It is my hobby not my life.
If I give running my best shot and don't make it to the top then I can accept the truth square on the jaw: "you're not good enough pal". Whereas, if I just grow old and think of what could have been it will just kill me.
How about you No Toes, ain't you sick of the stars of the music industry earning fortunes for miming songs, sick of mediocre assholes kicking footballs and earning five figures a week, sick of airbrushed supermodels earning millions when they look just like you and me first thing in the morning, well almost ?
You gotta have a dream my man, ideally two or three. I got two.
Yeah, I've got to agree with the above comment. I run because I like it and I'm in no illusion as to where I stand in running hierarchy. I missed my pb by 18 seconds at the weekend but I'm still pretty happy with myself considering the comparison to where my life was then and now. Running's a hobby for most of us, and a way to get out there, have a laugh and enjoy the communal atmosphere at races away from the other distractions that we come up against.
Tim Dale, I've read all your comments and as well as being a wind up merchant, you seen to be a bit of a pretentious arse too. I came up to High Wycombe to visit friends and run the race to get me away from the south coast where I usually hang out, but thankfully I'll be going back on forums down there and won't have to encounter your particular brand of annoyance and stupidity. Get real and get a life and some humility, if you're really that good a runner then be thankful for it and thankful for the fact that you don't appear to have some of the physical and social aspects in your life that other people less fortunate than you do.
AS for everyone else at the race, great atmosphere, lots of laughs and lots of water. Thank goodness I spent some time out on the Downs to prepare for this one as that first hill got a bit steep at times. Well done to Handycross Runners for a great event, High Wycombe is lucky to have such a good one every year.
Richard, communal atmosphere, interesting....
Pre race: everyone looking for somewhere to piss
Race: everyone, erm, racing
Post race: a burger at the mobile abbatoir and, erm, a drive home.
Richard, did I miss the helicopter landing on the Rye whisking you and and your eclectic group of friends over to The Fat Duck for lunch?
No Richard, there are much better settings for a social get together than race day in Wycombe. You are just kidding yourself.
Funny, I had some interesting conversations in the 'piss' line as you so eloquently put it and the general feeling at the start line was one of friendliness and humour. Of course you probably wouldn't have seen any of this as you were right at the front straining against the lean primed sinew of your rippling muscles, ready to burst out without looking back.
During the race, granted I've been at races with more support but those out there were vocal and encouraging and it was lovely to see so many children helping out at the water stops and giving their best to cheer us along the way. You probably missed this as well as you were motoring on past on your quest for fame and glory in Bucks.
After the race my friends and I went to a pub where I had a nice burger and a chat, but if you met my friends the word eclectic would be the last one you'd use, but good company it was none the less. After that I did enjoy my drive home with my wife and baby as we discussed issues other than split times and that slight niggly feeling in the back of my calf because there are more important things (that's me and the wife, the baby's not that advanced yet.)
Yes there are better places for a social get together, but for those of us who treat this as the silly game i it undeniably is, it was a nice one. If you'd like to see a communal atmosphere in progress at a race then suggest you sprint down to Chichester during the year and get involved in the Corporate challenge, the Trundle hill run, the Midsummer five, the Bognor 10k or any of the other good races we all enjoy down here. You'd have to pick only one though, wouldn't want to mess with those goals and wear yourself out now.
By the way, I have noticed that of all my comments you responded to - two words and none of the rest, which is interesting really isn't it?
I look forward to your petty and juvenile reply.
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