Running Brighton & London how to recover
Treat Brighton as a long run by taking it slow & easy (e.g. 10 to 11 min/mile pace to come in sub 5 hour) and then rest for the whole of next week (I suspect you won't be feeling like running/walking anyway!).
Based on how well you do at Brigthon and how you feel, either go faster/slower or same speed in London. Be pessimistic with your approach to London - if you start too fast its going to hit you a lot harder than the average participant who's had a restful taper.
If you've not gone further than 30 miles in the last two months, and you haven't got a lot of running prior to this, then you are under-prepared for one marathon let alone two. I'm guessing you know this already, so you have to take a survival approach rather than trying too hard.
PS Will you be carrying an oversize hammer (and wearing oversize specs)?
PPS Good luck!
Tim Mallett wrote (see)
Hello all, I am running (foolishly) the Brighton Marathon Sunday and London the following Sunday..I am a novice runner who has been churning out 25-30 mile weeks the last two months. Less before due to injury.
Oh god, you are going to get roasted on here. 25 mile weeks, less before ....... 2 marathons back to back.
Oh boy. Personally I think bugger it, you only live once, so what the hell, but I can tell you, you might get some replies about the wisdom of doing two marathons back to back (in relative terms for a novice)
it can be done easily enough - I did Brighton and London 2 years ago and my London time was only 10 mins shy of my Brighton one
I used Brighton as the A race - went PB hunting but failed (hey ho) and planned to bimble around London with someone else. by 9 miles my legs felt fine as we'd been taking it easy so I headed off at a slightly faster pace. was fine.
between the 2 I just rested and had a short 5k easy run and a swim midweek.
good luck and enjoy
fat buddha wrote (see)
it can be done easily enough - I did Brighton and London 2 years ago and my London time was only 10 mins shy of my Brighton one I used Brighton as the A race - went PB hunting but failed (hey ho) and planned to bimble around London with someone else. by 9 miles my legs felt fine as we'd been taking it easy so I headed off at a slightly faster pace. was fine. between the 2 I just rested and had a short 5k easy run and a swim midweek. good luck and enjoy
Not all of us are machines like you Mr Buddha!
FB, and you are a novice runner with only 2 months of low mileage behind you?
As others have said, take both easy. You are doing them for charity and the hell of it. So, treat Brighton as a long slow run, see how you cope with the distance. use that as a stratergy guide for London.
London is quite different, you can easily bimble around, run walk as you see fit, make the most of it, stop off at mile 17 and great the RW forumites supporters.
Personally I wouldn't be looking to 'race' either. If you take them both easy you'll get around them both fine. It will hurt but who really cares about that?
Problem with both is that they are flat road races and your legs will get more tiredfrom doing the same thing over and over than if you were running up hill down dale. Think which would you prefer, 100 miles of motorway or 50 miles of country lanes? If you need to stop and stretch then do so, who cares? If you need a potty break, have a nice hot cup of tea or piece of cake?
"FB, and you are a novice runner with only 2 months of low mileage behind you?"
ah - yes - perhaps not....
the key thing I want to get over is that it's not as difficult as some people may think it is. Ok it's easier talking from the perspective of someone who has a few marathons under their belt but even for novices, if they approach matters positively it's not a huge deal.
the OP has a 1:45 half time - that's about a 4hr marathon pace if paced well. I would suggest anyone capable of a single 4hr marathon is capable of doing back to back ones in 4:30-5hrs if they pace themselves well
rest, rehydrate, refuel and perhaps a lights sports massage in between and they will be "raring" to go at VLM
Cougie, good to see you provide consistent advice
Tim, you've had 10 months to prepare - so you maybe should have thought about this before now
I havent read what everyone has said but i did this last year. I am not a fast runner and i had injuries. I did them both in the exact same time 4:33.
Basically have you done marathons before? If not then go slow on Brighton and then just enjoy London for what it is and dont go for a time on either. Either way, dont go for a time.
In between the two i did this:
Mon - personal trainer assesment - strength on injuries
Tue - massage
Wed - physio
Thu - Strength
Fri - physio / light massage
Sun - Run
I hadnt run at all between the two. You can read my blog - its a bit boring for others but you may get some tips - www.nicolacane.com
I had done VLM before so i just went and enjoyed it and stopped to say hello to my parents on tower bridge, and then chatted to loads of people, it was my way of getting myself round. I loved London and always do, its great. So if anything go faster at Brighton and just enjoy London
I'll fly in the face of what many say...
Get Brighton finished. Better to be on your feet for 4 hours than 5+. I'd feel a lot fresher after 6 days if I'd spent 4 hours on my feet and not 5.
Also, London is a far better place to run/walk a marathon. There are a throng of folks at the back doing exactly that.
You're going to need to keep active in the week between. Walk as much as you can on flat ground, do not even think about running at any kind of speed. (If you've ran 1 marathon what can a 5 mile run prove?)
Keep moving, keep a very strict and sensible diet, with lots of protein. Don't even concern yourself with how your legs feel for a few days. The next one will be coming, and you should look forward to it. Don't fear it.
Advice on perfect planning here - http://natrun.co.uk/london-marathon-checklist/ - plus some advice on post London pubs too.
Be sure to enjoy them both. You'll do just fine.
Go all out at Brighton and treat London like a laugh.
Why? For two reasons.
1) You will be fresh at Brighton. Imagine you take Brighton 'easyish', it will still take a lot out of you and you'll be in danger of just doing 2 piss poor marathons instead of at least one good one.
2) Imagine saving yourself for London then you get stuck behind a crowd, cant get past people, have to take the long way around to get through .......and totally bugger up your time, and you'll be thinking 'shit why didnt I go for it in Brighton when I had the chance?'
Fair play solid running...Something to aspire to!! These events are hopefully the start of a long running journey and yes hopefully something to enjoy and aim to exceed with times etc in the coming years....
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