Is the Great Manchester Run really 10km?

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28/05/2013 at 14:47
Courses are mearured on bicycle with a little gadget called a jones counter, which trips every time the wheel does a full turn. If it is a closed road race the measurer will take the shortest route possible. If it is an open road then he will go to the white line on bends with lines or to the bends without lines he will cut the corner to get the shortest route.
With a race like manchester you will find that only the first 500 runners will be able to take advantage of the shortest route because of mass and you cant all run the measured line.
If a run has a run britain permit it will be measured correctly and garmins should only be used for training runs as a guide and or a time piece on race day.
The best races to do are club runs that keep clubs going and dont put millions into Mr fosters back pocket under the great run banner.
Dont forget the accurately measured Lea Town 10k with run britain permit 12th October 2013 all welcome and within half a mile you will all be able to run the race line.
Dave The Ex- Spartan    pirate
28/05/2013 at 15:06

I said that yesterday

28/05/2013 at 15:33

PS.  Alan - thanks for that reply - very helpful and makes a lot of sense.

 

Barry - thanks for obviously understanding where I am coming from! Would have cut another 1 min 40 off time which is a lot for me!

 

Dave - keep  positive!

seren nos    pirate
28/05/2013 at 15:39

never ever rely on your garmin for distances in a race.........I used to run the smae park run week after wek and it always showed a slightly different distance.but usually over distance.it is a guide so give your self a safety margin when making your calculations.,

we were discussing the garmins yesterday and someone cycled through a tunnel.........the grmin made up its own route when it lost signal and decided that they have travelled over 600 miles whilst in the tunnel.their average mph was amazing......

the courses are meausred accurate so moan about your GPS not the race........

Dave The Ex- Spartan    pirate
28/05/2013 at 15:48

I'm always positive ! 

I just love people who spend a fortune on Garmins and then trust them without hesitation and then moan when they miss a PB by 24 secs

28/05/2013 at 16:47

I did a 5 miler last year with some club mates and 3 of us had garmins. We all had a different reading. We all ran the 'same' course.

 

Good read on measuring here

28/05/2013 at 17:31

I got bang on 26.2 at London on my Garmin.  Most races I do are either bang on or at most .05 miles out.  (with the noted exception of the 2012 MK marathon where even the organisers admitted it was 0.25 long)

Think it depends on how closely you follow the race line.  At London I hugged the blue line all the way.

28/05/2013 at 17:59

I finished 109th with no congestion and no people dodging and got it at 10.15km on my Garmin. 

At an event of this magnitude, I would trust the km markers and official distance to be more accurate than my Garmin 

28/05/2013 at 18:22

Hi all

This is a very interesting thread with a number of interesting debates within it. It proves that people run for many different reasons. For those who are motivated via times its unfair to be criticized by whose runners whose motivation sits with simply running and enjoying the experience and fresh air.

As stated in several posts I personally have no doubt that the race WAS measured correctly and was mearly interested to find out what some runners recorded as a overall distance.

As for the guy who is 24 seconds from achieving his personal p.b,Keep going and never ever ever give up.

 

28/05/2013 at 22:35

All Bupa races (10K's & Half's) are measured accurateley, 30000 + runners in the Gt Manchester 10K run ran slightly different distances, I did not see them running in single file, impossible. Just enjoy some of the most supported races in the UK, they are the best for all runners. If anyone wants to know more about course accuracy get in touch with your regional course measurment secretary's. There has been  a definate increase in road running over the past six month, long may it continue. Many new running groups are emerging, long may this continue also. It is easy, cheap and fun setting up local running groups, women's only or mixed, meet your friends and colleagues and talk about it. The best thing about fun running clubs is no pressure to compete in club events as a club runner and over race, many running groups now have experienced UKA coaches for advise. The unattached running club??? is by far the biggest in the UK.  Bruce Tulloh has sound advise in his books for all standards, worth a couple of quid to buy one.

 

Good Luck everyone, run to your ability, don't worry whether a garmin is long, short or anything else, you are your own boss and know how fast or how far you have run. My views expressed, 50+ years experience behind me at every level, always glad to help.

Edited: 29/05/2013 at 10:47

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