Liverpool Half Marathon 2012

Run to the Mersey Beat! 18.03.12.

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19/03/2012 at 12:40
My Garmin came out at 13.22. No way did I take the racing line though.

@Sib. re the start. There are around 4 times more people at Liverpool HM than Helsby, probably proportionally even more walkers/joggers and. going from memory, more potential bottlenecks on the course. I think because of those facts Helsby "gets away" having a free for all at the start whereas it was a bit of a PITA yesterday.

Some people will always abuse a system but surely just having 5-6 signs up with suggested starting positions for expected finish times could only help the situation?
Edited: 19/03/2012 at 12:46
19/03/2012 at 13:12

I would definitely agree with the issues with the course length - missed my PB by 26 seconds and can't think of any other possible explanation!

Definitely needs the start sorting into time slots though - hopefully this will be in place next year with the change of starting point (although wasn't that supposed to be this year?). It's a very tight course in parts and the congestion caused by the starting free-for-all never really abated...

19/03/2012 at 13:16
Barrie Cass - just for your information the event has cost just over £12,000 more to deliver than last year for exactly the same thing. I am the organiser and I get a bit tired of defending the cost of the event. The entry fee is directly linked to the cost of delivery. It is considerable. Believe me.

The course has a UKA certificate so it doesn't matter what anyone's Garmin says. The course is officially measured at 13.1 miles and it was the same course as 2011. No changes.

In addition, the days of Goody Bags have gone. No more. As much as I get fed up defending the cost of the entry fee (modest compared to GNR!!) I get fed up with comment about Goody Bags. Some people think they are free. They're not. I've ditched them because people expect too much from them. We are not the London Marathon I'm afraid. It is easier just to do without. Too many people complain about poor content and we can't can't keep everybody happy.

The start and finish will move to the Pier Head next year as we have outgrown the waterfront. The extra space will give us a better start area and there will be time signs in position which people will still ignore!!!
19/03/2012 at 13:17

Enjoyed the race Alan, I got a new PB smashing last years time by 25 minutes I finished in 2:05:48 very happy and no gale force winds on Otterspool Prom.

I did think some signs with predicted finish times or pace would be a good idea. But no doubt even with that there would still be the problems.

Hopefully with the new start and finish place will ease it.

19/03/2012 at 13:24
I thought it was fine, agree with the people who say the start should be stuttered in regards to ability, saying that though I started relatively close to the front (I was through the start line after 30ish seconds) and I only finished in 1.44. I expected to go about 5 minutes quicker than that... I had only ran 18 miles this year before Sunday though so I suppose I can't complain, even though I was 13 minutes slower than last year.

The costing is fair enough, I was one of those people who were confused about the goody bag (I didn't even realize they had been stopped) but fair enough if they cost too much. Surely something must be going wrong for the event to cost £12,000 more though? What is the reason for that increase?
cougie    pirate
19/03/2012 at 13:34
Inflation ? Everythings gone up hasn't it ? And peoples expectations too ?
In the olden days you'd not have chip timing ?

19/03/2012 at 13:39
Damn progress!!!

19/03/2012 at 13:48
Fair enough on the cost of putting on the event Alan. I think you have done a fantastic job as the Liverpool Half is now a very big event. I hope it attracts even more runners in the years to come. I just hope the congested start is sorted out and the entry fee doesn't become unaffordable. Congratulations are due though on a well organised event.
19/03/2012 at 13:58
£12,000 seems a lot but then its less than £2 per runner I suppose. For some reason I had it in my mind the more people that run the lower the cost would go down, because its the same route just split across more people. Hasn't entry numbers increased as well, so 12,000 surely wasn't too much of an issue?

Fair play to Alan for organizing these events though, they're great for the city and the council should provide as much support as they can.
19/03/2012 at 14:01
Joe - additional safety related support x 6 staff, increased payment to Liverpool City Council for a Traffic Order, paid for water for the first time ever, increased cost for technical T shirts, even more Stewards than we had last year, more containers out on the course for litter retrieval. There are MANY things that contribute to increased cost.

Barrie - thank you for your understanding!
19/03/2012 at 14:39

Just my two-penneth after my first half marathon.  I throughly enjoyed the morning, partly because I was faster than I expected, and partly because it was sunny.

 A couple of specifics:

 - cost: perfectly reasonable

 - goody bags: no loss to me - if I get a decent t-shirt, a medal and a banana I'm perfectly happy.  I would rather not have a plastic bag full of flyers.

 - start:  I started further back than I would have liked and finished quicker than I expected, but that's fine. All part of the learning curve.  Plus it sounds like next year's move will help.

 - Personally I like a scenic route, but I thought that Sunday's race had nothing to apologise for in that respect - I thoroughly enjoyed taking in the views in the parks (particularly the fountains) and along the waterfront (despite the slight headwind).  Some major cities - eg Manchester - don't have a half marathon event at all.

19/03/2012 at 14:49

Had a great time. Ran it Barefoot and got a lot of support and as usual a lot of ribbing. Being Liverpool the best one liners came from home runners. The best by far was "Ey Laa..that 30 quid entry fee really get's ya dont it?" I came accross two other guys running barefoot so didn't feel to much like a freak.....back next year for sure

19/03/2012 at 15:07

I can't understand complaints about the route being uninspiring - what did people expect to see whilst running the Liverpool Half Marathon in Liverpool? the Taj Mahal? (to paraphrase Basil Fawlty). There are certainly more scenic races available but as an urban run in an industrial city (formerly industrial at least!), with at 10 of the 13 miles are running in or around the city's parks and along the waterfront, I don't think the route can be knocked.

cougie    pirate
19/03/2012 at 15:13
Alan - how about putting small skips after each water station and the runners can lob their empties into there ?

They do something similar in Ironman where the cyclists are told this is the only zone to leave your empties. Littering along the rest of the course would Disqualify you. Might save on marshals having to pick bottles up a bit.
19/03/2012 at 15:23
Alan thanks for a great event.It was really well supported by spectators. I liked the idea of hitting Parliament Hill so early and there were lots of interesting things to see on the way.Glad the wind was kind for the run along the river.I felt as though I was running down hill a lot and my old knees are feeling it a bit today. I didnt come expecing a pb but feel  that with a bit more speed training i could have got there .Still I was happy with 1.32 and all being well will be there next year.I am glad not to have been burdened with a goodybag ,the t shirt and medal are great as was the cost of entering
19/03/2012 at 15:44
Have to say thanks to the people of Liverpool for their great support to the runners!  Also, it was my first race and absolutely loved it with a chip time of 1:35.33. Would love to do this race every year so keep up the good work Alan!
19/03/2012 at 17:38
My third Liverpool half and I'll be back again next year . The start is not an issue for me ,took about 5 minutes to get there but managed to high 5 mr akabbusi . Water stations where very well organised just a question about having 1 at 12 miles and then another bottle at the finish . Like the T-shirt and will use it .
As with any event I hope Alan takes onboard comments both good and bad ,because the Liverpool half can get bigger and better .
19/03/2012 at 17:53

for my two penneth - it was fantastic.  My Garmin came in a 13.03 mile but I ain't complaining as it lost signal in the underpass - sometimes its over - other times it under.  I did read somewhere after googling GPS and it did say they are very rarely 100% acurate all over the time.

As for the race - defo a PB course as I got one - and for not being scenic - nonsense I love it.  got a brilliant mix of big city feel - parklands and running on the prom.  Defo my favourite 1/2 marathon of the lot and well worth the trek down from Lancaster and getting up at silly O'clock (even last year when it was same time as clocks go forward).  Can not wait till next year.  Organisation was spot on - plenty of drinks - well marshalled - well organised this year at the end with t-shirts (was congested last year) and the support was fantastic throughout.

19/03/2012 at 17:57

Top day out in all, and thought it was a pretty challenging race.

 Liked the fact that there were a few minor ups and downs.

 However, could hardly move until about 6 miles into the race as the course was very narrow in bits with around 6,600 runners.

 The course across parts of the park could only fit 2 people wide on the lane !

Got a pb as well so pretty good day in all.

 loved the batman theme tune playing when he came in.

19/03/2012 at 18:36

Want to add my thanks to everyone involved in putting on this race. Lovely weather again and I really like the route - the parks and the prom are great for me.

Have read back a bit - tbh people who think they're slow hang back in the line up and people who think they should be at the front put themselves at the front - and predicting your finish time 6 months or 6 seconds before the start doesn't change that - great to see so many pbs whatever.

lovely tee shirt - good colour choice.I love my race shirts and as I was far enough back to see earlier finishers walking down the prom the meet their folks, the sight of their new shirts really spurred me on...sad eh?

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